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Indy_bueller
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 12:54 pm: |
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If Obama bought a Buell would you guys like him? Would you ride with him? I bet if he did a 100 foot wheelie that you would even vote for him. It isn't a requirement for me that I have to personally hate a politician that I don't agree with. This is apparently a requirement on the Left, as evidenced by the bashing Sarah Palin continues to take even to this day. On a personal level, I have nothing against the man. I oppose many of his political positions (not all of them), that's all. If I found out he owned a Buell I would be impressed, but no more so than if I found out that Bush owned one. I would ride with either of them, and their ability to ride a wheelie would not affect how I felt about them personally. Contrast that to the fact that many, many people in this country voted for him for no other reason than he is black and a democrat. Oh, and for "change". Whatever the hell that means anyway. All this from the same folks that label anyone who doesn't agree with Obama "Mean, rightwing, KKK & Nazi". Who are the intolerant ones again? I'm confused. (Message edited by Indy_Bueller on June 16, 2009) |
Old_man
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 12:56 pm: |
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I'm hateful! You need to get a mirror. LOL |
Slaughter
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 01:02 pm: |
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Are too! Am not! Are too! Am not! Yes you are! No I'm not! Yes you are! NO I'M NOT! Yes you ARE! |
Hootowl
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 01:04 pm: |
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I should remember that Old_Man is an ex cop. He isn't used to people disagreeing with him in a forum where he has no control over them. I guess name calling is the only means he has left. There, a fourth usage of mean. Also I have now, for the first time, said something mean about Old_Man. You know, since I was already guilty in his mind anyway. |
Indy_bueller
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 01:04 pm: |
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Right wingers, Klan and Neo-Nazis ONLY! I'm hateful! You need to get a mirror. You are the one that decided to start throwing around labels and making blanket judgement calls about large groups of people. |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 01:07 pm: |
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I don't think anyone here dislikes you Old_Man, why are you so hateful and, dare I say, mean? Generally, Old_man lacks the ability to make a straight forward, logical, and well structured argument based upon facts. He prefers to bob and weave around discussions, side step direct interrogatives, and define things as only HE sees them. It's ok, we're used to it. Kinda sad, but we're used to it. Personal attacks are usually his last line of defense just after he plays the victim card. I'm still waiting for an answer as to what specific mechanism denies the US the right to use water boarding. I'm still waiting for an answer as to whether extended sleep deprivation is coercion or torture. I'm still waiting for an answer as to what the "rich" do with their money. And these are just topics from the last week. |
Old_man
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 01:18 pm: |
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You need a mirror too. |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 01:20 pm: |
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You aren't it. |
Gregtonn
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 02:03 pm: |
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"Did you know that if you eat two servings of Stove Top brand Stuffing, along with a package of Green Giant brand Broccoli with low fat cheese sauce your farts will be able to knock a buzzard off a shit wagon?" Custy, Add a packet of Lipton French Onion Soup mix and the shit wagon will collapse too. Wait! I just had a great idea! How many want to take a tour of the White House and The Capital? I'll provide a free lunch. G From Webster's II University Dictionary: Mean -[from the latin medius] 1. The middle point between two extremes. 2. The avoidance of extremes of behavior; Moderation. Edit:Added question mark. (Message edited by Gregtonn on June 16, 2009) |
P_squared
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 02:06 pm: |
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I personally prefer Guiness and Pizza Hut Meat lover's for my deadly flatulent needs. It's been known to clear out berthing areas of combat hardened Marines. |
Old_man
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 02:10 pm: |
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Mean -[from the latin medius] 1. The middle point between two extremes. 2. The avoidance of extremes of behavior; Moderation. LOL |
Greenlantern
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 02:36 pm: |
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I was going to state that this thread was turning mean, but apparently it is anything but. |
Liquorwhere
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 02:39 pm: |
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If Obama bought a Buell would you guys like him? Would you ride with him? I bet if he did a 100 foot wheelie that you would even vote for him. Not only would I NOT ride with him, I wouldn't even be impressed. I could care less what he rides, if he rides, what he does, I only needed to read his book to understand there is NOTHING he has to say that I am interested in, unless it is "I have decided for the good of the country to resign the presidency, effective immediately" that would be interesting to me for about a minute. Then I would be cheering for the 2012 election...if Biden could make it that long......so whatever, I am a mean conservative, down right hateful of people that want to free load of myself and others that pay their way through life. I could also care less about being labeled that...call me a Nazi, KKK, whatever you wish, it doesn't effect my day in the slightest, I know what I am, and I am not inclined to change. So there ya go. |
Old_man
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 02:56 pm: |
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I didn't label you. Don't know what you are. I only stated that those are the groups welcome here. They fit right in. Liberal thinkers, not at all. |
Spike
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 03:01 pm: |
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quote:I only stated that those are the groups welcome here. They fit right in. Liberal thinkers, not at all.
Has it occurred to you that if you spent as much time providing a clear and well thought out defense of your position as you did whining you might earn a bit of respect here? You're painting with a broader brush than anyone else here in this thread and you're tossing out insults with every posts, yet you still claim to be the victim here. What gives? |
Old_man
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 03:10 pm: |
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The response I get is mostly personal insults rather than anything rational. I have given up trying to debate rationally. I will follow your lead. |
P_squared
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 03:11 pm: |
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Seriously, step away from the Hater-aide & GO RIDE. If that doesn't help to relieve some of your recent angst, you could always volunteer to be a fart sniffer so we can perfect Crusty's & Gregtonn's recipe. |
Old_man
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 03:21 pm: |
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I have been called a liar by your resident right wing know-it all about a mundane post that I made, and I demonstrated that it was no lie. That man has lost any respect I may have had for him. To debate, as someone who disagrees with the majority here, is futile. I was told by management that my posts were not welcome. I will no longer start a thread. But, until I am barred, I will not keep my mouth shut. |
Hootowl
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 03:21 pm: |
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"I only stated that those are the groups welcome here. They fit right in." Old_Man, There's a "birds of a feather" insinuation there, implying that conservatives generally are all racist fascists, and specifically one ones on this board. I defy you to find a single post on this board advocating the wholesale killing of Jews or the suppression/persecution of minorities. Labeling an entire group of people based on your perceptions is certainly NOT liberal thinking, at least not in the classical sense. It certainly seem to be the case in modern liberal thinking though. Perhaps that's why I'm a conservative. I reject the hatred that modern American Liberals have brought to the party. American Conservatism has as much to do with Fascism as Soviet Conservatism has to do with embracing free markets and free societies. American Conservatives believe the government should exist as it was intended by the framers of the Constitution. That's all. There is no racial component. In fact there is a distinct lack of racial politics in play, which is really what pisses off the folks that make their living off of race baiting and finger pointing. |
Old_man
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 03:27 pm: |
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I have paid attention to the posts here. I know what I read. I know those posts don't get under your skin. They go by without comment from the majority. |
Hootowl
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 03:29 pm: |
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How about reserving your vitriol for the person you're in a tiff with? I'd like to hear your thoughts unputrefied by the film of contempt they must pass through before being posted. |
Ratyson
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 03:35 pm: |
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Old_man, are you referring to Bill's post? #4 or 5 on page one? |
Slaughter
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 03:39 pm: |
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We are mean for the same reason a dog licks himself: BECAUSE WE CAN! Deal with it. |
Hootowl
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 03:40 pm: |
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Please enlighten me. Show me the posts where we all talk about Jew killing as the solution to all our problems, and how the black man is the root of all evil. If you can't, I think you owe some folks an apology. I'm sorry someone called you a liar. I didn't. Please don't call me a fascist racist. |
Old_man
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 03:41 pm: |
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No, He knows who he is, I'm waiting to see if he's man enough to apologise. I called him on it at the time. No response from him. |
Old_man
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 03:43 pm: |
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Please don't call me a fascist racist. I never did! |
Mortarmanmike120
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 03:43 pm: |
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Excellent post Hootowl. I'm a self proclaimed conservative but hate the insinuation of conservative=racist=fascist=old=white=hater. That's a pretty common association among my more 'liberal' friends. I've tried recently to stop labeling myself or others because I know very few fit well into defined boxes. In my experience the hate/disdain toward conservatives by modern 'liberals' is far greater then the inverse. Another good point about the race baiters. I think they are genuinely flummoxed and looking to make up accusations of racism because thats all they see. Janeane Garapahoe comes to mind. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms45EzMR0f8 |
Ratyson
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 03:57 pm: |
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No, He knows who he is, I'm waiting to see if he's man enough to apologise. I called him on it at the time. No response from him. Ah, ok. Well, I just went back and re-read the thread... There were no posts directed at you, until you came in with your post about Nazi's and clansmen. So I guess I'm a little confused. } |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 03:59 pm: |
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I would neither ride with man nor have a beer with him. I wouldn't with Kim Jong Il or Castro or Chavez either. What communion has light with darkness. |
Spike
| Posted on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 04:02 pm: |
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quote:I will follow your lead.
quote:But, until I am barred, I will not keep my mouth shut.
Pick one. If you're aiming to make incessant posts until you're banned, you didn't learn that from me. If your problem is with few why take it out on many? |
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