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Barker
| Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 04:29 pm: |
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Today I took a modified tour of the Capital drive powertrain plant. If you did not know, this plant is where they make buell and sporty engines. The tour guide was kind enuf to let us know why we had to do a modified tour. She explained "We cant let you see the final assembly line because that are making a new engine" She said she could not say which or both of the lines will be getting a new lump. New buell lump??? (Message edited by Barker on June 03, 2009) |
Not_purple_s2
| Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 04:32 pm: |
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hmmmmm...... this could be very interesting. hopefully they'll bring back the trap door tranny. |
Hootowl
| Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 04:38 pm: |
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A 900cc belt driven overhead cam air cooled v-twin with a 9K RPM rev limiter and 115 rwhp. |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 04:43 pm: |
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Interesting. Wonder what "new" engine both the XB or Sporty would be getting. It hasn't changed since 1903. |
Buellinachinashop
| Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 04:45 pm: |
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I'd think outside aircooled. |
Buellinachinashop
| Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 04:46 pm: |
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Also, they do alot of assembly work on Screamin Eagle engine parts at Capital Dr. |
Doughnut
| Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 04:47 pm: |
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Buell just came out with the 1125, not that I know shit, but I would guess a big change to the Sportster. Didn't the Sportster get a big update just after the XB came out? |
Elsinore74
| Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 04:50 pm: |
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What was so wrong with the VR1000 race engine? Could it have been made street-able? Weren't a number made street-legal and available for sale overseas to meet homologation requirements? Of course, as my better half often reminds me, my memory isn't what it used to be... |
Barker
| Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 04:53 pm: |
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If the "new" engine is water cooled, I would think they would make that in Kansas City along side the V-Rod. We were shown some new machines and robots. I could not see what they were doing. The guide said "These are new machines, I am not sure what they do." Maybe she is unsure or if she said what they did, It might let the cat out of the bag. |
Doughnut
| Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 04:55 pm: |
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Or she may have been shot on sight. |
Bads1
| Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 04:57 pm: |
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Think V-4!!!! |
Doughnut
| Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 04:59 pm: |
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NOVA! |
Barker
| Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 05:00 pm: |
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If you are in the area for homecoming be sure to stop by. It interesting even with the modified tour. It was like a 30 minute ride from Buell HQ. |
Gregtonn
| Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 05:06 pm: |
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"What was so wrong with the VR1000 race engine? Could it have been made street-able? Weren't a number made street-legal and available for sale overseas to meet homologation requirements?" The VR1000 motor made too much noise to pass EPA noise regs even if it had a 0 decibel muffler. Yes it was homologated overseas, in Poland (no kidding). G |
Buellinachinashop
| Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 05:15 pm: |
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The VR motor also ran about $60,000.00. And wasn't made to run more than a race at a time between re-builds. |
Teddagreek
| Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 05:18 pm: |
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XBRR Trickle-down I hope I've heard things about XB make over I got the rasberrys http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/406 2/453003.html?1240019032 |
Buellinachinashop
| Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 05:19 pm: |
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"If the "new" engine is water cooled, I would think they would make that in Kansas City along side the V-Rod." V Rod production workers are either being re-assigned to the Sporty line or layed off down there. Remember, HD is moving everything you saw at the Captial Dr plant, up the road to Menomonee Falls. They may have been covering empty spots. HD has had round the clock shifts making this move. Its supposed to be done by 2010. |
Doughnut
| Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 05:22 pm: |
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I have a terrible image in my mind. . . NEW for 2010, bold new colors! |
Barker
| Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 05:27 pm: |
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When/where is the dealer meeting? |
Court
| Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 05:33 pm: |
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>>>What was so wrong with the VR1000 race engine? The VR100 motor was crap from day one and had TONS of problems (about 9 pages in the report I saw) that made it a crummy race motor and not even a candidate for a street motor. |
Panhead_dan
| Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 07:59 pm: |
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"The VR100 motor was crap from day one and had TONS of problems that made it a crummy race motor and not even a candidate for a street motor." That is an accurate statement. |
Wheelybueller
| Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 08:17 pm: |
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If this is a "true" rumor,I cant wait until the Dealer meeting,If not oh well. Its the same feeling when I buy a Loto ticket,I get to fantasize,daydream some |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 10:25 pm: |
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Dealer meeting is in Denver this year. As a BMC employee, I am know told these things. |
Froggy
| Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 11:06 pm: |
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But you don't get told the stuff that matters. |
White
| Posted on Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 01:09 am: |
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"The VR100 motor was crap from day one and had TONS of problems that made it a crummy race motor and not even a candidate for a street motor." That is an accurate statement. Panhead-dan = I always though it was funny when Court did that! |
Buellgrrrl
| Posted on Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 09:04 am: |
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FB, you already been promoted to "BMC employee"? |
Barker
| Posted on Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 09:12 am: |
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When in denver? |
Xl1200r
| Posted on Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 09:16 am: |
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I'd think outside aircooled. Outside aircooled would likely require a new chassis as well. Not saying it's impossible, but a lot more of the plant would have been off limits if that was the case. This is interesting news... I'm excited for August. |
Xl1200r
| Posted on Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 09:17 am: |
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What I think is more likely is the sportsters may get a revised bottom-end, much like the XBs got last year. Perhaps the cam cover changed in appearance. |
Hughlysses
| Posted on Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 09:28 am: |
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What I think is more likely is the sportsters may get a revised bottom-end, much like the XBs got last year. Perhaps the cam cover changed in appearance. They may change the internals, but I'll bet they don't change the appearance. The Sportsters went to a flywheel mounted timing sensor a couple of years ago, but Willie G. said they specifically kept a fake ignition sensor cover on the right side case because they wanted to maintain the "expected" appearance. Personally, I think they should drop that and put a fake magneto on top of the cover to restore the really traditional appearance. |