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Spiderman
| Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 - 06:01 pm: |
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Please see my want ad in the classifieds. Casses needed. Thanks. (Message edited by spiderman on July 24, 2008) |
Hughlysses
| Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 - 06:08 pm: |
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Man, that sucks Spidey. Of course, there's always Hopefully the dude's insurance will pay for new cases. |
Badlionsfan
| Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 - 06:09 pm: |
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won't the other guys insurance pay for the repairs? |
Spiderman
| Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 - 06:14 pm: |
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Welcome to the no-fault, a motorcycle isn't a motorvehical state of Michigan... I got ABATE fighting the good fight for no helmets and "Bikers rights" but not insurance rights... |
Badlionsfan
| Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 - 06:18 pm: |
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And I'm guessin you don't have full coverage right? That law is some BS. I'd like to publicly thank my Dad (RIP) for getting transfered to Ohio from Grand Rapids when I was a kid. EDIT-- can you sue? (Message edited by badlionsfan on July 23, 2008) |
Pammy
| Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 - 06:42 pm: |
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If you are splittin' the cases anyway(duh), I am thinking that those may be able to be repaired....You get to keep the matching numbers and all is well. |
Davefla
| Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 - 07:08 pm: |
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Welcome to the no-fault, a motorcycle isn't a motorvehical state of Michigan... Hell, Spidey, that bites - you musta paid what the cases cost into the Catastrophic fund this year, even if you're running with PLPD. An attorney probably won't be interested, but you could always check into filing in Small Claims... (Message edited by davefla on July 23, 2008) |
Ulywife
| Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 - 11:22 pm: |
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Welcome to the no-fault, a motorcycle isn't a motorvehical state of Michigan... You have to license it and insure it like a motor vehicle, don't you? NC is a no-fault state as well. Since you were stopped and had no contributing factors to the accident, I don't understand how they can deny your claim against the other guys insurance. That sucks Spidey. |
Buellinachinashop
| Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 12:35 am: |
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so does that mean in Michigan, if I cross the road and get hit by a truck, the truck driver isn't to blame because I'm not a motor vehicle? |
Tramp
| Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 12:46 am: |
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I wouldn't trust a boss repair...time to invest in a nice set of S&S cases...or HD blanks- I presume HD still exchanges and restamps with an exchange...? |
Darthane
| Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 06:44 am: |
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That royally blows. >.< They're considered 'recreational vehicles', but I'm not sure what that means in the eyes of the insurance when it comes to the whole no-fault thing, honestly (and my I just say for the record that no-fault is TOTAL BULLSHIT). I kind of work on the assumption that no matter what I'm riding, driving, or even DOING, my insurance will find some way to screw me over. |
Xl1200r
| Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 08:30 am: |
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Welcome to the no-fault, a motorcycle isn't a motorvehical state of Michigan... The d!ck head in me is telling you to then stop registering and insuring your bikes since those things are only needed for a motorvehicle. If bikes are no-fault in MI, and your insurance isn't covering anything, I hope you're not paying more than $28 a year to insure it. Hell, I work for a HUGE insurance company (but in IT) and that's total bull. |
Rubberdown
| Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 08:36 am: |
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Was the other driver insured? Do you have uninsured/underinsured coverage? I don't know MI law but the phrase "bad faith refusal to consider, negotiate, or attempt to resolve a meritorious claim" may get their attention if this nonsense continues. (Message edited by rubberdown on July 24, 2008) |
Ferris_von_bueller
| Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 09:22 am: |
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You better sue that old man that hit you |
Clarkjw
| Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 10:00 am: |
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Dude, it's time for an 1125CR! Get gramps to pay! |
Miamiuly
| Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 10:09 am: |
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So then if you are in a wreck in an actual RV like a motorhome, then what?? It is a recreational vehicle. I hate that attitude that motorcycles are toys. With gas prices and the green movement high, it would be nice to change that view. One thing about Florida, I believe the reason that we don't have to insure our bikes if we can't or don't want to is that they were considered affordable transportation for those who can't afford a car. Like a scooter that can go on the highway. My bike is only a toy on days where the ride is for fun only. Otherwise it is my main transportation and I should not be penalized or discriminated against like some parking garages do. We should be praised for not wasting gas running the AC and toting around tons of extra weight, but instead- they are toys and we are crazy. |
Ebear
| Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 10:11 am: |
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Glad your OK Spidey! Bikes are easy......Bones are not..... Sooo ...why didn't you just shoot that spider-web stuff out and fly off the bike??? |
Xl1200r
| Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 10:28 am: |
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Spidey - I did a little reading on this "no-fault" stuff... "The law specifically excludes motorcycles from no-fault insurance coverage unless the motorcycle is involved in an accident with a vehicle, or other special situations." Sounds to me like the no-fault exclusion is designed for one-bike accidents, not your situation. Another website said that you should be going after the van driver's insurance company for this. But maybe this only applies to damages to your body, not the bike... Madness. Good luck. |
Spiderman
| Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 10:39 am: |
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Guys I hate to be short but I am balls deep in law books and legal stuff to make your head spin. All I really need is a line up on some cheap cases... |
Pammy
| Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 11:24 am: |
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That could be repaired. No sweat. |
Tramp
| Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 11:40 am: |
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Pammy's partially-correct- it could be repaired...no sweat to the tech or the welder. I've repaired many cases (You should see some of the BSAs I did in the '70s), and have found that, regardless of MY lack of sweat, BOSS repairs on aluminum usually end in tears. It's a stressed-out, load bearing boss. When (not if)the repair goes, it could be dangerous. A repair to a case form a 'frisky' rod? no prob. an aluminum weld due to road rash, etc? sure thing. A welded repair to a mounting boss? bad idea. |
Blake
| Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 12:06 pm: |
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I trust what Pammy and the folks at Cycle Rama say implicitly. They have mongo skills and mucho knowledge; they also stand behind their work. If they say that they can do it, you can take it to the bank that not only is that true but that it will perform as advertised and be durable. |
Spiderman
| Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 12:43 pm: |
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I don't doubt what any welder says, but that is just one possible fracture, I haven't gone near the rear mount yet. Where one tab has already been welded back on. So if I am lucky and no mounting tabs have stress crack or been broken, I will have two major areas that have been welded. In my eyes, good for the track but not everyday general use... |
Tramp
| Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 12:46 pm: |
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..and, they ARE paying sponsors... I don't doubt them either...I've rarely had much luck with boss repairs, and consider it a very ghetto style of repair, considering the risk of aluminum boss failure (at highly-stressed mount)and and the availability of new cases...esp nice new S&S cases |
Tramp
| Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 01:28 pm: |
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The Buell's integrated situation in the actual chassis matrix certainly, for me, precludes performing ghetto repairs on it. It's a weak link of the actual chassis, and not just an engine, for Buell's intents and purposes... think about that. HD "techs", used to dealing with only full-cradle frames, may not think this out. I'd be interested to know how many Buell engine mounting bosses/tabs this shop has performed. |
Blake
| Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 02:01 pm: |
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No doubt in the hands of lesser skilled and less knowledgeable folk, a repair via weld may indeed be "ghetto". However, that speaks more to the skill and expertise of the particular craftsman involved than the approach and effectiveness of the repair. Implying that I may be swayed by the BadWeB sponsorship status of Cycle Rama is odd and frankly insulting. I speak only from personal experience. The reputation of Cycle Rama is stellar. Humility is good. Arrogance is sucky. Don't be sucky. |
Tramp
| Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 02:07 pm: |
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Blake- note the "LOL" guy..you know I'm busting chops. I don't doubt Cycle-o-rama's 'stellar' expertise. What I DO doubt is that Buell Motorcyel Company would ever approve of welded repairs of part of the frame/engine interface, which comprises a significant weak-link of the chassis matrix. failure of same would lead not only to mechanical issues, but also a significant safety threat. let's put this question to Buell service. |
Spiderman
| Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 02:09 pm: |
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Ya know what is really sucky, having my thread BOOFOOed.
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Tramp
| Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 02:11 pm: |
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I was offering constructive advice, with your safety in mind. If it were a cradle-framed Sportster, I'd suggest you go with the repair. IF my constructive advice isn't needed, lemme know. |
Spiderman
| Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 02:14 pm: |
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This isn't my first time working on a Buell, and as you see above I declined the welding as an option due to the fact the cases already have one weld on them. This thread has now turned into a welding cases debate. Which I wouldn't mind if I didn't have a 2ton steel enema on Friday and my pride and joy is two wrench turns away from being scrap metal... |
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