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Jolly
Posted on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Im currently working on this design for my bikes. Ive wanted something with a little more design element than the stock "plate" and I wanted to use the other top pick up point since I don't use the plastic shield. finished working my 1 1/8 handlebar converter so now its finally off to the next custom CNC part. Machinist should have it done this week for mock up. just in time for Christmas!


swing arm brace
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Buelljunkie
Posted on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks nice, Jolly.
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Bikerrides
Posted on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very nice. I would love something like that for my S3T!
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Jolly
Posted on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks!!

It will look great with a cut down cam cover and even with the squared off face of the stock cam cover. I wanted something like this since I normally cut down my cam covers which leaves a very mechanical shape that needs a complimenting "V" style swing arm brace. Ill take photos when its done...this can be produced for all that want one....
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Lakes
Posted on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

very nice, just the heading said .. custom swing arm brace?
all i can see is pulley guard.
i've still got the plastic cover, as when i removed it i could see the rusty cast iron pulley. how did you improve the look of that?

also saw your S1 frame brace, looks good i have an Ohlans steering damper with custom made clamp, in that area on my 2000 M2 so got bike out for a ride yesterday & took a look, found my frame came with bracing in that area stock. so i'm learning all the time.
i still like my Stenzel bar too. my bike seems to handle ok in twistys.
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Kc_zombie
Posted on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks very nice. Me likey.
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Jefc73
Posted on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Helluva machinist. It looks awesome.
lol
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Blackm2
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2013 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lakes, upper part is technically the pulley guard while the lower section is the swingarm brace. I'd be in for one unpolished.
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Jayvee
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2013 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Drive Support Arm is what its called, I would like one like that too. Looks great. But I need one that fits the stock size outer dimensions. Don't need the pulley guard, I have the Race Tech smooth pulley cover that bolts to the Drive Support Arm just like the stock black plastic one.
I think the round pulley covers are still available, just not from Banke any more.
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Dannybuell
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2013 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

good looking! Please share cost when you find out.
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Flatheadbill
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2013 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice looking piece. I would be interested in 1 or 2 unpolished for powdercoating. If you make a small run of them shoot me a line.
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Jolly
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2013 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I should have this in my hand and bolted on a bike by the end of the week. I have two different pulley covers that bolt to the pulley, one is the aluminum one with pockets for the cap head screw so they sit flush, American Sport Bike design. the other is also an American Sport Bike design and has a CF center disk with button head screws that attach the CF disc. the polished aluminum does not require any additional offset to clear the pulley cover, the other one, with the CF center disc with button head screws requires a little longer spacers for more offset to clear the screws. I am having him make me two different spacer set-ups for each so that it will work with either version of pulley cover. I think this thing is going to cost somewhere around $130.00, but definitely less than 150.00
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Lakes
Posted on Tuesday, December 10, 2013 - 04:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

blackm2 thanks
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Jolly
Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

part complete!!! looks great installed. I have two different spacer thicknesses depending on offset required from pulley. I have a pulley close out piece on my S1 that requires a little extra offset to clear the button head screws that hold the carbon fiber inner disc in place. the other set is if you do not need additional offset from pulley.

I think that I can get the price to 135.00 to 140.00 for the part, spacers and shipping.


swingarm brace
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S1owner
Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks good but something like this would rule!


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Jolly
Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, thats cool not running that set up though and my intent was to design a nice piece that picked the top right bolt that the plastic shield bolted to, looked nice with a stock cam cover and a cut down cam cover, blended well with the Banke brake/shift stuff or looked good on its own merit.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jolly, that brace looks REALLY nice!
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Jolly
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks!

I'm going to have three more made for myself, a few folks had said they wanted one when I got it done.

Chime in if you want one! Lets get a list started.
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Mike13
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll take one.
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Devo1959
Posted on Friday, December 20, 2013 - 01:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ordered a frame brace and would like one for my 98 SW1 with chain conversion. It needs a little something.

Jeff
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Jolly
Posted on Saturday, December 21, 2013 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm now up to 6 requests...

With the Christmas holiday I'm going to let this run a little bit to provide folks an opportunity to still get in on it.

By the way, no load testing has been done, but I don't know how much there is actually carried here. This point is in front of the motor to pivot block bolt which is in front of the pivot point and isolators..... I'm just not sure what load or force could actually exist here and no other bike has a design like this.....

Regardless, the machinist is from the aerospace field and has assured me of the quality and structure of his parts and uses 6061 aluminum.... And says any part that he makes is covered for a replacement if it EVER fails....

Anyone know what load or why this piece is actually in the bike design?
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Greg_cifu
Posted on Saturday, December 21, 2013 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was going to keep my mouth shut but, since you ask:

Yes, there should be some considerable load going through that area. In simple terms, think about the action of the rear suspension. The shock is being pulled horizontally, under the engine. That tends to want to push the swingarm pivot forward through the swingarm brace. Without the brace, all those suspension loads are having to be carried through and around the transmission area of the rear engine case.

Additionally: you have the belt/chain forces pulling on the same area, trying to pull the swingarm out of line and shorten the distance between the output pulley and the axle. This too, loads that area through the same part of the engine, in the same manner.
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Jolly
Posted on Saturday, December 21, 2013 - 05:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the input....! This piece is as thick as the stock piece, which doesn't show in the picture I posted.

I would think if there was "considerable" load the tie in point to the swing arm pivot block would be beefier than the 5/16 inch bolts especially as little material there is from the edge of the bolt holes to the edge of the block..... It's about an 1/8 inch material.... That can't carry much load without splitting out?

I've seen other designs similar in design and I've never heard of or read a write up regarding issues.....

Just the same I think I will have him leave a little more material as he makes the order up.

The machinist is using excellent quality material and assures me of no concerns or issues.... Just wondering if anyone knows for sure or if its all speculation on what load there is at that point....

Any one else have any input??
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New_new_guy
Posted on Saturday, December 21, 2013 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm really new here. This is my 1st post, but have been following many threads for over a year. I don't really know much. I'm saving up for my 1st bike. It WILL be a buell. I hope to buy a tube frame because I think it's the hottest bike ever made.

I found these on ebay. Hope im not stepping on anyones toes.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281231302828?ssPageName=ST RK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649#ht_1535wt_1 196
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Jolly
Posted on Saturday, December 21, 2013 - 07:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have one of those, but I wanted something that didn't have the flat front face since I have cut down cam covers. that piece looks nice up against a stock cam cover, but it doesn't carry the design element I was looking for with a cut down cam cover. that one has a lot more material but its above the bolts and doesn't do anything more to carry a load, though it offers more of a pully cover design for sure. the place that's different is it doesn't have any skeleton cut out in the part that is the brace, from the 5/16 inch bolts to the 1/2 stud sticking out from the motor that it gets bolted to. but, I'm still not sure how much of a load there is at that point.

they do have them at a nice price, though I do not think they are made from as high a grade of aluminum as what I am working on. certainly not knocking their design...I have one...but it really only works for me on a bike that has the stock cam cover and since I do not plan on cutting down my cam cover on my S3T, it got bolted to that one. I think they keep the cost down by higher volume production for sure, and very possibly not as high a grade aluminum as the one the machinist made for me.

don't worry about toes around here, we've all got thick skin and asking the right questions is what keeps us all moving forward!
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Jefc73
Posted on Saturday, December 21, 2013 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can attest to the material and the skill of the machinist doing the work. I know the guy personally and he is the one who made the frame brace as well. I have been to his shop and its top notch to say the least. I have also seen the metal stock that he is using and its high end quality for sure. If I cut my cam cover then I will be getting one for sure, just spending too much money on everything else right now. lol. Great job Jolly. I think we need to partner in a business or something.
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Jolly
Posted on Wednesday, December 25, 2013 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

does anyone else want a drive arm support/pulley guard? I spoke with the machinist, he does stress modeling and has taken this part to 1,000 pounds of sheer force for testing. he also manufacture warranties all of his parts.
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Jolly
Posted on Wednesday, December 25, 2013 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think I can do this for 135.00 each, no money into my pocket, just passing on a nice part that I wanted for myself - but I also cant be caught with money out of my pocket for shipping -

please let me know if you want polished or unpolished - each one will come with two sets of spacers, 1 set for stock clearance offset from pulley and a second set to clear the American Sport Bike pulley guard with the CF center disc and button screws.

current count - is 8 depending on how many flathead bill actually wants.

3 - Jolly (yes I'm buying more)
1 - Devo 1959
1 - Bikerrides (?)
1 - BlackM2 (unpolished)
1 - Flatheadbill (1 or 2? unpolished)
1 - Mike13

As you add your name - copy and paste the list so that it stays true to count. with it being Christmas and bike money probably spent on family I will let this run for about 2 weeks unless someone has to have theirs now, price wont change, it just makes life easier for the machinist which is a goal of mine for sure!
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Flatheadbill
Posted on Thursday, December 26, 2013 - 04:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi. Put me down for 1 as long as USPS to Ontario Canada is a big factor. Thanks
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Jolly
Posted on Thursday, December 26, 2013 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

3 - Jolly (yes I'm buying more)
1 - Devo 1959
1 - Bikerrides (?)
1 - BlackM2 (unpolished)
1 - Flatheadbill (1 unpolished)
1 - Mike13
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