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Matrim
Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2011 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone know if there are solid models of the x1 breadboxes floating around anywhere? I am going to attempt to fab new boxes and it would be helpful to have a starting point.

Thanks again
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Jramsey
Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2011 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What's a "solid model"?



(Message edited by jramsey on April 15, 2011)
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Gmaan03
Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2011 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it is a computer model of the part. It's a "solid body" which simulates time, space, weight of a created part on the computer. Each and every Buell was created this way, right down to the bolts, nuts, and washers. Engineers can build a "BOM"(bill of materials) list and know what it takes to make this thing. They then create manufacturing drawings for machine shops, molding companies, and what ever else to create each and every part. Each Buell was created and tested on a "solid model" basis. FEI Finite Element annalists software is used to test the model(complete motorcycle) for stresses, weak points ect.
So now you know!
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Oldog
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2011 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

X1's did not have "bread boxes"
s3 m2
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Fasted
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2011 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



you decide.............
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2011 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hint - It's bigger than a bread box.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2011 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

X1 bikes did have breadboxes. They were just pushed forward and streamlined in.

Just sneaky packaging.
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Jramsey
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2011 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>you decide.............

I've always called it and the left scoop oem frame sliders.
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Matrim
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2011 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Okay, not a breadbox.... but the giant black plastics that replaced them, whatever you want to call them. solid models, yay, nay?
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Babired
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2011 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

oh come on guys the air scoop and air filter cover!!!
e-Bay and I have a couple of used ones if you want to buy for cheap
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Kalali
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2011 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So, are you looking for what Gmaan described as Solid Model? If so, I seriously doubt if anyone here would have that. You may need to contact someone with access to the Motor Company archives.
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Britchri10
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2011 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Failing that.... Put a regular Bread box, side cover, scoop container, air intake concealer etc' into a 3D modeling machine @ create a virtual model.
(I have no idea how you actually do this, but I am sure it can be done)
I think that any existing computer models will be subject to copyright & I would bet $$$ that, outside of Court's vast collection of all things Buell, they no longer exist.
(What do I know, though. I am only a secretary!)
Good luck with the project.
Chris C
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Matrim
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2011 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, I am looking for exactly what Gmaan was describing. Yes, I could scan my existing part into the computer but it is very difficult to get our setup to get a good scan. It sounds like I will have to start from scratch, I'll let you know if anything comes of it. The plan is to make a computer model of the parts, rapid prototype them, make a mold, and do a carbon fiber layup. (I have access to this at school, if only I had the extra time... le sigh.)

(Message edited by matrim on April 15, 2011)
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Gmaan03
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2011 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cool that is what I do for a living! Carbon/composite molds and tooling.
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Matrim
Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 02:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That sounds pretty fun. What kinds of parts do you make? Have you made anything for your bike?
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Gmaan03
Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 03:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No no carbon for my bike. We make mostly aerospace stuff. The molding part is pretty boaring, the mold making is fun.
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