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Lemonchili_x1
| Posted on Saturday, September 05, 2009 - 05:31 am: |
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Has anybody tried a radial master cylinder on a tuber with single rotor/caliper? Any better? More or less lever effort? This Nissin one is available from braketech, $219.95US.
RADIAL PUMP MASTER-CYLINDERS |
Rick_a
| Posted on Saturday, September 05, 2009 - 06:16 pm: |
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I've ridden other bikes with radial master cylinders. There's generally a bit more feel and a little less effort...especially in threshold braking...than the standard brake systems. |
Lemonchili_x1
| Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 08:29 pm: |
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I rode a Duc 848 last week, which admittedly also has twin discs, but the brakes were outstanding, lots of initial bite which I like. I jumped back on the X1 and it felt like it had no brakes for the first few minutes! I have a Ferodo rotor and pads now, wondering whether an upgraded master cylinder will help. What other brake upgrades are available while sticking with a single rotor? I guess a caliper rebuild probably wouldn't hurt too. |
F_skinner
| Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 08:45 pm: |
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Has anybody tried a radial master cylinder on a tuber with single rotor/caliper? Yes
This is on a 96 S2T. The bars had to be changed for it to fit the HD diameter (1 inch) bars. I would say it is mildly better than stock however, I am not an aggressive rider so maybe a better rider would get more benefit from it. Frank |
Ratbuell
| Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 09:02 pm: |
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Frank - what's the switch housing? I've never seen "engine stop" and "start" stickers on a Buell....but otherwise they look like my 98 S1W housings/buttons. I'm cornfuzed... |
F_skinner
| Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 10:17 pm: |
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No idea. It was on the bike when I picked it up. This is number 240 of 398 from MT. |
80rs427
| Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 10:22 pm: |
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Those are '96 S1 switch housings. The '96 came with words, then Buell switched to symbols for '97 & '98. They are identical except for the lettering. |
Lemonchili_x1
| Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 10:44 pm: |
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Thanks Frank. Any idea what size the master cylinder is? I'm not an overly aggressive rider either, but I like powerful brakes. |
F_skinner
| Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 11:42 pm: |
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I have no idea what the displacement is. Here are some pics.
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Littlebuggles
| Posted on Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 11:50 pm: |
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I think Al (A.S.B.) stocks them for XB's and maybe tubers too, he's prolly a good source for info. |
Lemonchili_x1
| Posted on Monday, September 07, 2009 - 03:11 am: |
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Frank - that's actually an axial m/c, the radial ones have the piston perpendicular to the handlebar. Looks like a nice aftermarket Nissin one though Yep, I've been searching through some threads and Al does stock them for XB's, still debatable about the advantages, but I'm thinking I might give one a try |
The_italian_job
| Posted on Monday, September 07, 2009 - 02:35 pm: |
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Lemon said right, it's an axial, so no difference with the stock master, maybe slightly better, but you would def feel the difference with a radial. I'll go with it on my next step on my S1: double front brake system, radial master cylinder from a 1098 (Brembo) and double axial Nissin 6 piston calipers from MV Agusta Brutale (I have a bunch of parts left over from my old Bruty I will adjust for the S1). |
F_skinner
| Posted on Monday, September 07, 2009 - 02:57 pm: |
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You guys know best. This thing was on the bike when I picked it up. I sure do not like the looks of it and thought maybe he fabbed it himself. I look forward to seeing what you guys do! Frank |
Lemonchili_x1
| Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 01:47 am: |
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I've been doing a bit of digging, lots of variations of master cylinders, and lots of opinions! From what I know so far the equivalent radial m/c is usually/generally one size bigger than an axial unit due to the different pivot locations of the lever. e.g. You would usually use a 19mm Brembo radial m/c to replace an older 16mm (5/8") axial m/c. To make it more interesting some companies offer units with two pivot positions for different leverage ratios. In general it seems that Buell are conservative in sizing the standard front m/c's and tend to use smaller a model than other bikes for a similar setup, ie a setup with more lever travel, less bite, more modulation. Can anyone think of another brand that sell a bike standard with a single 6-piston or 8-piston caliper? |
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