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Preybird1
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone know the correct part numbers for the xb rockerbox breather conversion.
1. rocker box cover front and rear
2. rocker box gaskets only the big ones not small square ones
3. pcv valves

1995-2002 xb parts only

I have the part numbers as follows but Im not sure they are right
1.17605-00yb front rocker cover cant find rear part number.
2.17607-00y pcv valves.
3.17353-89c gaskets.
If you guys have the time let me know if these are the right parts for the conversion.
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Texastechx1
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

(1) 17605-00YB Rocker cover, front head
(1) 17642-02A Rocker cover, rear head
(2) 17606-00YA Grommet
(2) 17607-00Y PCV Valve
(2) 868A Hex Socket Button Head Screw


Thats what I got and it did the job!
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Preybird1
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice thats what i needed thanks.
thanks texastech1
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you know American Sport Bike sells the everything in one kit for this project
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Firstbuell
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

everyone should perform this upgrade when they have the opportunity

pretty cheap, with many benefits!
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Billetmetallic
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

pardon my ignorance, but what are the benefits?
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Buellistic
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Billetmetallic, you ride a BUELL so you are far, far from ignorance !!!

1) Valve, umbrella PN 26856-89 never were any good as head heat kills them !!!

2) Less breather puking as PVC valve is higher up, runs cooler and lasts longer ...

3) Easier pluming to a catch container ...

4) Cleans up carb. support area ...

You do not run a head breather into the intake as it pollutes the intake charge ...

If you want to lubricate the valve guides put 1.75 oz. STP per gallon(when you fill up the gas tank) in the gasoline every 5K miles ...
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Preybird1
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was going to buy it from American sport bike but. I can get the parts from the dealer for $117.00 w\taxes al wants $224.95+ shipping? And al's is polished which i dont like, I am going to anodize them hard black!
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Tripp
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i've had this mod for a few years now and i'm very happy with it. it can all be done for around $115 and a few hours labor!
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Buellistic
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When the BLAST came out was when my head breathers got up-dated ...

Of course the XB's were not out yet, so "i" just drilled my OEM rocker arm covers to take the BLAST PVC Valves ...
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Preybird1
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ahh we were talking about that very thing. Maybe we will drill the old stock ones for the other bike.
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Buellistic
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Preybird1, this allowed me to place the BLAST PVC Valves where "i" wanted them !!!

If "i" can find pictures of what "i" did, they can be e-mailed to you ???

Ljenne73c@verizon.net
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14d
Posted on Friday, January 16, 2009 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm planning on doing this conversion myself here in a week or so. Anyone know the pn's for the gaskets I'll need to replace as I still have the leaky paper ones?
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Preybird1
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok guys i got all the stuff ready, Now the middle rocker cover that has the umbrella valve in it come out right?
any advice will be appreciated
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Buellistic
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Preybird1:

Remove them, as in time they will disintegrate and get in the oil system ...
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Bluzm2
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The middle section gets removed and set aside of you are using the XB covers.

Brad
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Buellistic
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bluzm2 is "RIGHT" !!!

SORRY, but "i" used my OEM rocker arm covers putting in BLAST PVC Valves(in late 1999 or early 2000) and removed the umbrella valves ...
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Cyclonemduece
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brad and i did this mod to my bike a while back and ihad to remove a little bit of the material off of the front cover on my m2 but iirc brads 2000 m2 didnt need any modification.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I remember tht Blake, I have seen it both ways since.
Just a bit of work with a file on the front left corner.
If memory serves we needed to remove a bit on the inside to clear the allen bolt on the rocker box left front.
Another M2 I did didin't need the relief work. Cover slipped right on.

Brad
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Preybird1
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok guys thanks for the help, I got a lot of parts here to go on, I have been buying here and there all last year and have devoted my top drawer in my dresser to all my mods and new parts, It's gotten nice and full
Now if i could stop buying stuff for this bike i can get the xb i have wanted since i first got to ride one.
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Brinnutz
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I found a Buell dealer with parts inventory online, unfortunately not a sponsor, and the whole kit TexasTech mentions cost's only $88.40!!

Yup, 20% off every order, pretty much all the time!!
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Capital_g
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 08:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What is the advantage of updating the boxes other than less chance of leaks? The head breathes through the top of the XB boxes but you still have to run "drain lines" correct?
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Buellistic
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 08:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The HARLEY-DAVIDSON EVO SPORTSTER breather set up allows to much oil to get in the breather system and intake ...

That means you over pollute the intake charge if you leave the breather system OEM which makes the XB system better ...

"NOW" if you want to lubricate the valve guides, run some "STP" in you gas every 5K miles ...

Performance wise, it is better to run your breather hoses into a catch container no matter what breather system you use ...

"YES", you have to run these hoses(drain lines) some where ...
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Stevegula
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is this mod only for the carb'd X1s?

Sorry if the question seems dumb; I am not mechanically inclined. When I tear apart my engine I am likely not to get it back together. :-) but I'm gonna try!
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Oldog
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Steve all stock X1's are EFI
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Buellistic
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stevegula:

Works on all EVO Sportster(TUBE FRAME BUELLs) engines ...
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14d
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2009 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Could someone post the COMPLETE list of parts I will need to do this conversion, and maybe a quick run thru?
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Brinnutz
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2009 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's what I've got so far. It's not complete, and these aren't the prices you'll pay from a normal dealer, these are the 20% off prices....It's not a sponsor from here, so I can't divulge.

Qty 1 17605-00YB COVER, TOP, FRONT, MACHINED $31.20 $31.20
Qty 1 17642-02A COVER, TOP, REAR, MACHINED $31.20 $31.20
Qty 2 17606-00YA GROMMET, VITON, BLACK $2.36 $4.72
Qty 2 17607-00Y PCV TURRET VALVE $7.44 $14.88
Qty 2 868A SCREW, HEX SOCKET BUTTON HEAD $3.20 $6.40
Qty 2 17353-89C GASKET, ROCKER COVER $5.24 $10.48

I just don't know the part numbers for the oil hoses, that's all. I don't think I'm missing anything else.

(Message edited by brinnutz on January 23, 2009)
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14d
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2009 - 04:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, that was what I needed. Now if only my money would get here
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Cyclonemduece
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2009 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you also need the fiber washers that go between the cover and the allen bolts
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Brinnutz
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2009 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got a part number?

If you add anything to this, please post a part number. Thanks
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Buellistic
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2009 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gasket PN 63858-49
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Brinnutz
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2009 - 11:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Qty 1 17605-00YB COVER, TOP, FRONT, MACHINED $31.20 $31.20
Qty 1 17642-02A COVER, TOP, REAR, MACHINED $31.20 $31.20
Qty 2 17606-00YA GROMMET, VITON, BLACK $2.36 $4.72
Qty 2 17607-00Y PCV TURRET VALVE $7.44 $14.88
Qty 2 868A SCREW, HEX SOCKET BUTTON HEAD $3.20 $6.40
Qty 2 17353-89C GASKET, ROCKER COVER $5.24 $10.48
Qty 2 63858-49 GASKET, ROCKER BOX $0.72 $1.44


BTW, these are the 20% off discounted prices...
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