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Swordsman
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just curious. I think the Uly tail, aside from the somewhat strange looking pointy-ness, is a pretty cool gadget. I'd be really interested in seeing some pics if anyone has tried this, and costs incurred.

~SM
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Xl1200r
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't know of anyone that tried this, but seeing as how you can see the standard Lightning tail frame under the seat, I'd bet it's not a terribly complicated operation. This would be a great mod for people looking to do more 2-up and not wanting the rest of Uly's looks...
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Swordsman
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Exactly what I was thinking... also better for cargo. Since both the Ss and the Uly use the wider frame, I'd be willing to bet it's actually the same tail. It looks like the Uly seat extension bolts in where the Ss foot pegs would go. But that's just based on what I can make of the photos... maybe I should ask around on the Uly side.

~SM
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Xl1200r
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hear they're a bunch of weirdos that don't wash their bikes over there...
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Teeps
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Xl1200r
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007

I hear they're a bunch of weirdos that don't wash their bikes over there...


I resemble that remark. Bought my Ulysses last May. I have yet to wash it.
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll be doing a Uly tail on a TT shortly.
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Swordsman
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's a pic of my idea. I think it looks great.





~SM
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Tq_freak
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

that does look really good, the only other thing I can see that you are going to need to swap is the Peg mounts, the Uly has thouse big ones that are the rider and passenger all in one
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Trojan
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I haven't done this conversion, but I have done it the other way round : )
The SS cast side rails are the same as the Uly, except that some of the cast lugs need drilling/tapping to suit the different models (easy).
You would need the following parts:

Tail unit complete
seat
battery tray and seat release
plastic undertray.

If anyone wants to make me an offer I just happen to have all these parts in my garage : ) and currently listed on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ss pagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=330080401 950&rd=1&rd=1

Click on 'view sellers other items' to see the rest of the bits : )
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Swordsman
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd be interested Trojan, but the exchange rate and shipping would eat me alive (stupid European countries and their booming economy, bringin' down my $$$! ), and I'm not entirely certain I want to tackle that just yet.

Y'know, I sent you an email awhile back about getting a price update for the Ss low profile airscoops (painted Sunset), and never heard back. I'm still interested!

~SM
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was told by a <cough> "little birdy" that the TT/SS undertail will work better with a little massaging. The problem with the Uly tail was it was designed with the uly's tall suspension in mind.

Now you'll loose some storage space, but you'll not have to worry about bottoming the tire out on the undertail.
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Swordsman
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Steve, do you mean it could be easier to keep the Ss undertray and whatnot, and just rig the metal taillight/pad assembly and seat onto it?

And when you say I'd be "losing space", you mean if I keep the original and NOT use the Uly tray, correct?

Sorry to come off so ignorant here, but I've never really looked at a Uly up close, so it's hard to visualize this stuff.

~SM
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Swordsman, yes, that's EXACTLY what I was told. Use the SS/TT undertail with the Uly tail section. There will be spots you'll need to trim and some spots you'll need to fab up using sheet metal or fiberglass.
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Swordsman
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hmm, I'm not much into fabrication, but that still sounds easier than doing a whole tray/electronics swap. And cheaper too... just the light/pad assembly and seat.

Thanks for the info! If I DO decide to tackle this, I'll post pics.

~SM
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

At the request from Hals, I'll be heavily documenting the process myself. I'm going to be swapping out the TT tail for a Uly tail. And adding the XBR front fairing.

I've already got the side cases on the way from a fellow Badwebber. Just need to bike now : )
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Sleez
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

like i posted elsewhere;

XB12SSXRTT
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Swordsman
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you put the Uly tail and an R front fairing on a TT, you've GOT to call it "The Dragon"! It'll look just like one! You could even mount a couple of these on it...
http://www.badgersden.com/Makeup/Horns.htm

~SM

Behold, the mighty Buell Dragon! (yeah, I cheated and just used the R body)


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Sleez
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

that's it, the XB12SSXRTT Dragon
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yup, that'll be how it'll look.
But now add the side cases, and raise it up about an inch : )

Oh, and black wheels.
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh, and a Zero Gravity "touring" shield.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think the main advantage to using the Uly's tail section is that the hard case frame will bolt directly onto it.

A modified SS tail won't accommodate the bags.

So as an item list you will at least need:

Complete tail section
Seat
Combo rider/passenger peg assembly
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Swordsman
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, personally, I never plan on having hard bags. I prefer the soft ones... lets me squeeze in odd shapes.

So, theoretically, does the Uly light/pad assembly bolt in at the end of the rails like the Ss tail light assembly? Seems like it should, but it's obscured by the seat, and it seems to stick out further than that. Is there a piece in between the rails and the assembly that I would need to rig?

~SM
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Xl1200r
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007

I hear they're a bunch of weirdos that don't wash their bikes over there...

Dirty Bike? Fabulous. : D Getting into the bendy and dirty everytime I ride my CityX. Doing the work up and build of putting the Blast rear clip on the back of my ride. Pelican cases coming. LEDS coming, and moving the lights back with the ULY blinkers set. I will post pics when it is done. My CityX has been running the ULY front fender set since March, too short for the ULY . Holding my breath waiting for the true dirt bike Buell offerings. : |
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Toona
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Doesn't the TT have the regular Lightning seat rails on it? So wouldn't the undertail/tray be different, i.e. shorter than the Ss undertail/tray.
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm almost positive the TT has the SS seat rails. Just a different seat.
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Smokescreen
Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a customer that has done the Uly tail on his SS. It required some serious and not so serious fabrication. He did it mainly to give his wife a better ride. It wasn't cheap either. If you do it right and have to buy everything new your looking at least $600 in parts alone. Then you have to get creative with the wiring and fuse blocks also, as seat clearance is the issue. Hope that helps. If you would like I can try and find him and see if he still has his parts list.

Smokescreen
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Steve: You're right. Look at the Buell accessories page, they're selling the TT seat as a Lightning Long solo saddle, and the Lightning Long saddle (along with the footpeg mounts) as a TT dual saddle.
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Toona
Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ahh, learn something new everyday, thanks.
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