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Percyco
Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just whipped up a set of XB axle sliders for pocket change, maybe a fellow cheapskate like myself would like my recipe .

Hope I never have to use them !

New Skateboard wheels found on Ebay.........$8.00
Threaded 5/16 rod, acorn nuts and washers...$6.00
Rubber hose to slide over threaded rod to protect inside of axle......................$0.50
Protected aluminum Buell parts........priceless !


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Jimduncan69
Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what a great idea!
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Dmextreme
Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

nice.. this could be interesting.. bravo!




(Message edited by dmextreme on February 22, 2006)
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Midknyte
Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You're not the first, but nice job.
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Percyco
Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Didn't figure I was.....those "Axle Bobbins" that are on Ebay and sold by a fellow in the UK look pretty similar.


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Holling
Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't skateboard wheels tend to grab the pavement rather than slide? Could cause bike to flip.
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Wahmbush
Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Holling....thought and heard the same thing....any info to back it up?
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thats fine if you have a black bike

However, those brothers who sport coloured plastic might want to consider a skateboard wheel with a matching center, such as these Recta's spotted in Sag Harbor

mm

PS: Actual crash experience, (not by your correspondent), indicate the the skateboard wheels rotate, and do NOT dig in.
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Moonrunrs
Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Another great idea from the badweb!
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Moonrunrs
Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What size skateboard wheels are those, 50mm? Do you know?
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Percyco
Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

52mm....They are very hard....probably why they were so cheap compared to the brand name wheels. I dont think they would dig in anymore than a set of aluminum sliders. More than likely they would just wear away.
My .02
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Moonrunrs
Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Percyco,

thanks, this is totally cool. I think I'm going to put these on my 'bolt too. I found the wheels you used on Ebay, and think I'm going to order a blue pair to match my body work as closely as possible.

Last question: what type of rubber hose did you use to protect the inside of the wheel axle? did you have a hard time fitting it in there?
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Randlepmcmurphy
Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This idea is great just a couple questions?
How long did you cut your rods and did you put anything under the wheels to protect the finish?
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Percyco
Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I used the clear plastic hose you can get at any hardware store. I didn't measure the rod , I mounted a wheel to one side then slid it through the axle. Then I slipped the other wheel over the other side. I marked it, removed it and cut it off. I used red locktight and turned the nuts until they bottomed. I didn't put anything behind the wheels because I figured that the powder coat was much tougher than the hard rubber wheels.

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T9r
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I did the same thing, looks very similar and got some of the same questions thrown at me about digging in.

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/32777/148545.html

I used couplers at the ends of the rod on mine, so it made it easier and I didn't have to be precise on a specific length rod.

I also did not put anything under the wheels because it pushes up against the axle on one side.

I did drill tiny drain holes thru the wheels so I didn't trap too much moisture in the axle.

I also had lubricated the threaded rod with axle grease to keep it from rusting, the tube thing is a good idea as well.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you can get pieces of delrin fairly cheaply on ebay. a 1 1/2 or 2" diameter piece a foot long would make enough for 2 bikes pretty easily.

Delrin is the material most comercial sliders are made out of. All you need for the project would be a saw, a file, and a drill.
(If you don't have a lathe and mill)

For hardware all-thread rod is available at any hardware store. If you want to be slick epoxy a nylock nut into the sliders. Inserted from the outside
of course, so that if the epoxy fails the slider does not fall off. should make (re)assembly easier if you (red) locktite the all thread into one end.

I have a piece of 2" Delrin and I'll be making a pair for my front axle soon. I'll post pics when I do.

FWIW even hard skateboard wheels are designed to grip pavement. while less than rubber, it will still have more grip than metal or delrin in the
same conditions and could possibly bite and cause greater damage during a low side accident. Not saying it will, just that it could.
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Sgthigg
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cool idea.
Skate board wheels are rated in levels of hardness(100a are the hardest i think there is a 101 also). They are pretty much like rocks when they get that hard. The Harder ones will definetly slide better than softer ones.
Higher the rating less grip, lower the rating more grip. I would definetly go with the hardest one I could find if I was to do this.
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Stealthxb
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Skateboard wheels slide just fine!



Gentleman_jon...
I believe you meant Ricta
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Gearhead998
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Did you guys use bearings in the skate wheels or is there enough of a lip for a washer to catch. I think this is a great idea, as I can't afford aluminum sliders. Just wondering how it would hold up.
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Percyco
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No bearings in mine, just washers.
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Gearhead998
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

sweet, thanks
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Roly
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hi
funny those skateboard wheels ,i got them too ,been on for a year ,45mm long on threaded bar and thick washers, the xtra 5mm just in case they get grounded,would put longer ones on if i could of got some.
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Roly
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

bike with skateboard wheels
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Percyco
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Roly,
Is that another wheel above the front engine cyl. ?
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Bueller999
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thats an LSL slider
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Buelltroll
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This idea is AT LEAST 3 years old.
I did these in the summer of 03 and by the summer of 04 they were faded.
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Buellistic
Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The SKATEBOARD WHEELS like the ones the "LORDS OF DOGTOWN" used are faster wheels too !!!
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