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Jasonxb12s
Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've purchased new tires and gonna take the wheels off myself...Service manual says use scissor jack.

My question is this..What kind of scissor jack? Should I use the small ones or the big ATV/Cycle jack with 2 beams on it?

It would seem that I might damage the exhaust can or might get some wobble with either since the can is curved and the ATV/Cycle jack has flat beams.

Any thoughts or experiences with the scissors guys?

I am also looking into stands but would rather save some $$ and garage space.

Also, gonna need the entire bike off the ground when both wheels are off getting the new tires put on.

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Chainsaw
Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've got the Craftsman Motorcycle/ATV Jack (scissors with 2 beams).

I put a small block of wood under the sidestand to level the bike, which also gives me just enough space to slide the jack under.
I take the seat off and use 2 or 3 tie down straps, one on each side towards the front of the bike and one strap from side to side over the missing seat. I balance the motorcycle with my body and use a broomstick to hit the lift pedal. It will lift both tires off the ground.

Jerseyguy has machined a muffler holding bracket to fit his jack. There is a picture floating around here somewhere!
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Draoidh
Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I also have the Craftsman MC/ATV jack. To fit in under my bike I just roll the front tire on to 2 2x6's. Use one of the straps to hold the bike to the jack. The other strap I have hooked on to a chain I mounted to a crossbeam in my garage. This keeps the bike from tipping over while working on it.

--D
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420at145mph
Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the d&d exhaust has built in jack plate
works perfect with the bob vila jack
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Find a sturdy beam somewhere and use two ratchet straps. I hooked one strap under the steering head on the lower triple and the other strap to the upper part of the rear passenger peg brackets. While hoisting the bike I had to re-adjust it a couple times because you end up only taking length out of one side of the strap but it worked very well.
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Starter
Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 06:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use the jack out of the missus' hatchback. Works fine. I make sure that I have the rear end raised with a paddck stand though. Never looked like falling.
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Daves
Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When you use ratchet straps, how do you lower the bike back down? Just curious?

Dave
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Barkandbite
Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just bought the ole' Bob Villa (Craftsman) ATV/Motorcycle jack. I use that and/or my cherry picker from Summit for the work. I also park my bike using the Baxley Sport Chock and a Lockhart Phillips rear stand...flexibility.

Chris
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M1combat
Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a couple friends put their beers down and hold onto the bike. The person who drops it gets a Jiu-Jitsu lesson : ) J/K. I would imagine that with only one person it may be a problem but I've only done it once and there were three of us there.

Also, about taking the front wheel off... I gouged my front rim a little trying to move the wheel up and back enough to rotate the caliper out. I was getting quite pissed and finally walked to the left side of the bike... It was off in about two seconds from that side with no scrapage at all. It just seems like you can see the danger areas better from opposite the caliper.
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Lovematt
Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use the ATV Jack with the two beams but I cut up two 2 x 4 boards with the curvature of the muffler (used a cardboard template using the end of the muffler and a pencil).

I first put the rear tire up on a pivot stand (like a pit bull) so the bike is stable. Then I bring the jack under the muffler, line up the two boards under the two jacking points and lift the front up until the muffler is just level. This way the rear jack stand keeps the bike from tipping over and the jack lifts the front end up off the ground...both wheels are off the ground now.

I have to get a new front tire tommorrow and need to do this in the morning...I will take a picture and post it.
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Richieg150
Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I tried different jacks,built a stand that worked ok for the back.But I bought Pitbull stands for the front and back,I wish I would have known about them sooner than later.I bought them from Daves.
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Jasonxb12s
Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Matt,

Good thinking...
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Darthane
Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 06:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

<<Matt>>

That's how mine is stored currently and how I remove the wheels for any kind of service.

I use a swingarm stand and the jack from my Ram. I made a plate of 3/4" plywood with eyebolts sunk into it to put the jack on, which then gives me two tie-down points to keep the bike steady. Works great.
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Lovematt
Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As promised...this is how I jack up my bike. I lower the jack onto the handle so it won't go down anymore and then use two tie down straps on the outer footpeg hold down the jack to keep it from tilting. Between the straps and keeping the swingarm touching the rear stand it is pretty stable.
Jacked Up XB
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