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Xb9er
Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Having to lift the seat corner to get to the bolts to remove the seat of my XB9R is a real nuisance (even though I'm real good at it now after doing it many times). Has anyone come up with a quick-release system to make this chore faster and easier? I am going to try and fabricate something myself if I can find someone who has the tools I think I'll need.

Are the XB12 seats fastened to the sub frame the same way as the XB9?
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Darthane
Posted on Friday, March 05, 2004 - 05:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The XB12R seats are, yes.

Glue one side of a snap (like on pant waists) to the top of a bolt that will fit the threads in the subframe. Put the other side of the snap through the hole in the seat frame. Voila, snap on/off seat.

Bryan
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Xb9er
Posted on Friday, March 05, 2004 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Bryan.
That's a great idea!
I'll have to try that.
Mike.
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Midknyte
Posted on Friday, March 05, 2004 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not a bad idea at all.

I have more trouble just engaging the underseat tab than I do with the screws though.
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Darthane
Posted on Friday, March 05, 2004 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOL...I was just joking, but after thinking about it a bit, it does sound like a good one.

It might raise the seat a little bit, though, since the seat frame is meant to rest against the subframe. Maybe mounting the snaps just forward of the holes? That would still give you the option of bolting it down. I'm not anywhere where I can get a look at my seat, so I'm not sure if that's possible or not.

If you try it out, though, post pictures! I'd love to see how it comes out.

Bryan
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Xb9er
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 12:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOL. I thought it sounded feasible!

Anyway, I think I'll try something like that or another idea I have.

Mike.

Engaging the underseat tab is an art. I finally am able to do it in one try!!
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 01:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thread a bolt in from underneath and tighten it in place, drill a hole to fit a retaining pin like for a set of hoodpins, add a thick rubber washer for tension. When the seat is in place slip the pin in. Use a piece of wire to hold the pin when the seats off so you don't loose it.
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Martin
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 02:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

then, with the seat in place on the pins, land hard off a big bump in the road. Now you have perfect markers for the pair of eyes you always wanted to tattoo either side of your bum!
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 02:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not likely Martin. The tabs are way out to the sides almost flush with the back of the seat. Also you only make them long enough to pin the seat in place.
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Xb9er
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 02:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wyckedflesh. That is the other idea I had.

Martin. My butt doesn't reach that far back on the seat.
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Darthane
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 02:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wish someone would make a seat that kept me from sliding backwards...I only take up half the damned seat on my Firebolt.

I should cut up the stock seat and play aruond with the contour on it...
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Martin
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 06:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't take out too much foam or you could end up with a ring-of-firebolt
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Mookie
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

velcro works pretty good i hear
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Xb9er
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Darthane. I hear you. I use only the front of the seat and I would also like a seat that keeps me from sliding backwards.
Mike.
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Easyflier
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've noticed that some of the race bikes have a pad on the cowl that would prevent some of that rearward movement of the rider.

Wonder if they are readily available on the aftermarket as a generic part or custom made?
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Darthane
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 01:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There was a company that made custom cowls for Buells (at least X1 and S1s) that did exactly that. I can't remember the name now. Might be able to dig it out when I'm back home. Anyways, I asked them about one for the Firebolt and the reply was, "Maybe, with enough demand." That was right after the XB9R came out, so by now perhaps they have.

I rarely ride anywhere with my cowl on (tail bag) so that wouldn't help me, even though it should be a fairly simple exercise to add something similar yourself. The other problem with that is that I have the custom seat, which halves the vertical jump from seat surface to top of cowl. It's only like an inch with that seat on, as opposed to closer to 2 with the stock seat.

Bryan

EDIT: Torque Converter cowls...that's what they were called. Knew I had it on a shelf in the old noggin' somewhere.

edited by darthane on March 08, 2004
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Henrik
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A couple of inches of firm foam cut to shape and glued to the rear cowl will keep you from sliding back - a Bum Stop : D

I've heard Kayak type stores sell seat foam cheap - that would work.

Henrik
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Xb9er
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You can get the seat pads made for bikes from Airtech http://www.airtech-streamlining.com/miscpages/foam.html. It's probably going to be more expensive than the Kayaking stuff.

Mike.
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Xb9er
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's what I came up with so far to enable the quick-release of my XB9R seat.
Bolt and retaining clip fabricated to hold the Firebolt seat and allow quick-release.  Stock screws shown for comparison.
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Martin
Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 01:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Fantastic!
If you came back up a fraction with your cut-off, you could make a screwdriver-slot to ease installation.
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Cro13
Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 08:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Xb9er,
For the lasy people on the board (me) how about giving the size and thresd of that bolt.
Thanks,
Carter
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Cyclonecharlie
Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Size is a 1/4x20 and I just did it on mine. Was an easy fix and seems to work great.Don't need a slot,can turn it in with the clip.I used a jam nut to keep the threads tight. Thanks for the idea XB9er..........Later Charlie
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