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Its_a_buell
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I really need to get this problem resolved as I have someone interested in purchasing this baby on Saturday, 10 September. My 2003 XB9S recently developed a habit of cutting off when the kickstand is dropped...in neutral. Thats right, it will not idle in neutral while on the kickstand. Won't even start with the stand down. It just turns over endlessly. Any ideas?
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bad neutral switch?

Either way, bypass the kickstand switch before that leaves you walking.
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Its_a_buell
Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

more details please Froggy.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 07:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What I did on my X1:
Find the kickstand switch and follow it up to the connector.
Cut the kickstand switch wires (not the harness side! LOL!) and solder them together just next to the connector.

Don't forget to put the heatshrink tubing on before soldering! That one always gets me.
I'll post a pic when I get to work.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 09:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pics came out badly due to cell phone camera.
I'll try to get pics up tonight from a real camera.
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Ducxl
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Say,Nate!

Couldn't the starter safety interlock be the culprit? The kickstand is part of it.Right? How about those little diode thingys?

When you suggested that once,i was able to get my X1 fixed.
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Its_a_buell
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok, coming off of the kickstand (up tight agianst the bottom of the engine case) i've got what looks like two wires and they're in silver spiral wrap type material. they run between the engine case and the exhaust to the other side of the bike and mingle with a wad of other connections behind the drive pulley cover. supposedly i should snip them somewhere between the kickstand and the connector(which i cant exactly see), connect them, secure them, and i'll no longer have this issue? i'll try it and see what happens. gonna be hard with my fat American hands in those tight quarters though. are you sure these things were manufactured in the good ol' U.S of A? wish me luck
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Spatten1
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Make sure that the side stand bolt is not coming loose or about to break. That might cause it to not trip the microswitch, and later it will be much worse when it falls over. It's not uncommon.
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Its_a_buell
Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks for the idea spatten. I checked the bolt and it appears to be in good shape so I stuck it back in and snugged it up nicely. the switch was alot easier to remove than i expected so tomm. i will cut the wires between the piece that the bolt runs through(the actual switch i presume) and the connector, solder two like sides together, and re-install.
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Spatten1
Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2011 - 01:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Shoot, if you've got the connector unplugged, you can check continuity with the switch on and off, to see if that's the problem.
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Its_a_buell
Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2011 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i bypassed the switch. thanks for all the insight guys. very useful as usual
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