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Earwig
Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had a rear tire, Pirelli Corsa 3 put on my bike and an oil change (synthetic)... My local Harley shop is charging me $519.92... is this possible? I haven't picked the bike up yet but that price sounds crazy high to me... I don't want to complain or question it if it sounds right. Thanks in advance.

(Message edited by earwig on October 15, 2010)
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Bads1
Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't know.... how do you feel when you walk around ???
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Terrys1980
Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Did you get just an oil change or an interval service?
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Earwig
Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just an oil change and 1 tire (rear) replaced...
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Ourdee
Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is why we need to get a written quote prior to the work being done. Very possible, and the reason I change my own oil and take the wheels off so that the Guy at the Yamaha shop can sell and mount my tires for me. That would be a good price if I was getting 5 new tires put on my Jeep with an oil change. Nothing is cheap at the hd dealership.
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Tick
Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

well lets see 80hr + buell tax + incompetence+ no quote =
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07xb12ss
Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My dealer charges 95 per hour (why I never go there) so that would be $190, oil filer $20, oil $30, so that's $240, cycle gear is selling that tire for $200 on sale, I bet they charged you $250, so that makes $490.... plus tax, yea I could see that.

When cycle gear has the front and rear pirelli angel st's for sale for $200 a set I usually buy 2 sets.
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Tick
Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i have to say i dont like the sealer but yes that does sound about right they have to do it by book rate .i would look over the bike very well and make sure they didn't chip the wheel or some thing like that or put the tire on wrong for that price you can be very picky
i pulled an engine and did a swap for less than that. it does not take that long to change the oil and pull a tire less than 1hr
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Delta_one
Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 07:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

with HD prices yea I could see that, mine wanted $75 to swap out grips
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Speedfreaks101
Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I know this is a bit late at the moment but the biggest cost savings can be had by buying your service and parts manuals. Then purchase a good tool set and a set of race stands. You will likely spend the same amount you did today but will save much more in the long run.

IMO there is no reason that anyone should not perform basic maintenance on their bike. I could not stand the idea of someone else performing a task for me like mounting a wheel/tire then trusting their work. People make mistakes and there is no one that will be as attention oriented about your safety as you will be. This is not a black art and it is after all only nuts and bolts.
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree 100% with Speed.

Since I live about an hour from the nearest independant workshop, and three hours from the nearest Harley dealer that I would let touch my bike, even if the work were free, it would be hard to justify taking the bike to a shop for service since I can do the work in less time than it would take to bring the bike for service, if we are talking about routine maintenance.

Of course, one must expect to get ripped off at any Harley dealer.

In this case, I would have bought the tire for about $150, the oil and filters at Wally World for about $18, total $168, and about two or three hours work. That's a saving of about $350, not to mention the time saved.

Now that I sold my Buell and Harley, I am so relieved not to have any reason to go to a HD dealer at all.

Today, I got the battery for my Ducati replaced under warranty. Imagine that happening at HD.

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Iamarchangel
Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There are a lot of shops that will sell the tires for competitive prices and mount them free. They'll charge $20-40 to remove and install the wheel.

Those shops are not HD shops. For an HD shop, you got a fair price.

The other comments are valid. It's not a hard/complicated job.

Sorry.

btw, once the store knows you asked about tires and got that estimate, and notices that you show up with tires obviously from somewhere else, and that happens several times, they seem to be ready to be more realistic on other stuff.
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Redbuelljunkie
Posted on Friday, October 15, 2010 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's not about having the dealer service your bike or doing it yourself- it's about knowing how much you are going to be charged for services before you authorize the work being done.

Did you just take your bike in and tell them to change the oil and put on a tire? No mention of how much it was gonna cost? Didn't you sign a work order with an estimate? How did you get into this predicament?

The lesson here is that every time you take any vehicle to a dealership for service you must get a written estimate. Then write the amount you are willing to pay in the box on the repair order asking for customer authorization, and sign and date it. By law, the dealership cannot exceed the amount you gave written authorization for- regardless of how much they spend.

I sincerely hope that this is a lesson learned that you'll never have to experience again. You are in charge of everything that happens to your vehicle at a dealership- as long as you approve everything in advance, there will never be any surprises. Words of wisdom to remember.
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, October 16, 2010 - 12:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

G0350.1AMB Diablo Corsa III 180/55ZR17 Blackwall - Rear $259.95

1 hour labor to remove and replace the wheel, inc mount and balance. $60-110, depending on dealer.

Then your oil change, 3qts of Syn3, $39, plus $7 for a filter, plus half labor labor, so there is another $100 all together.

Factor in tax, then shop supplies, waste fees, you have an easy $500 bill.
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Srwitt
Posted on Saturday, October 16, 2010 - 02:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

HD=Hundred Dolla, Hundred Dolla....

My bike only sees the HD stealerships for warranty issues, and even that is iffy.
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Earwig
Posted on Saturday, October 16, 2010 - 03:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I did learn a lesson. I typically do general maintenance on my bike but I don't have the tools to mount/balance a tire/wheel. I had no idea it would be this much. From now on I'll buy the tire online, take the wheel off and find somewhere that will just put the new tire on the wheel. Honda was much cheaper to have this type of work done on my last bike.

Thanks for the responses.
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Dfishman
Posted on Saturday, October 16, 2010 - 06:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tire irons are cheap,HD dealership not so cheap.
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Terrys1980
Posted on Saturday, October 16, 2010 - 06:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Diablo Corsa III 180/55ZR17 - Ebay $160
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Greg_e
Posted on Saturday, October 16, 2010 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just find a decent shop that is not HD that has the proper tools to mount and balance the tires. Cost me $30 plus a really good price on the Pilot Power I put on last year which they had in stock, think I walked out with the wheel in my hand 15 minutes later for around $200. I think the HD dealer told me $65 if I brought the wheel to them, which is why I didn't go through them for the tire and mount and balance.
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Iamarchangel
Posted on Saturday, October 16, 2010 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Let the Honda shop sell you the tire, they'll mount free. You seem to already like them

No special equipment is needed for the buell wheels, the rotor doesn't have to be removed.
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Saturday, October 16, 2010 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"No special equipment is needed for the buell wheels,"

That's true but special knowledge is required.
Get the book, read the proceedure and if you don't want to wrestle a tire then take the wheel to the honda shop. I did this while on the road right in their parking lot last summer. $25 for dismount and disposal of old tire, mounting new tire and ballance. I feel like I got a great deal. More typical would be $30-35. The install will appear to be free or cheap if you buy the tire from them but the bottom line will show the cost due to the tire price.

The honda shop here in town keeps their tire prices pretty reasonable but I still buy them online a bit cheaper and mount them myself for the price of my time and about 2 beers.

Your oil change is another matter. It really is so easy and fast that's it's a pleasure to do yourself. These bikes were made to be user friendly as far as servicing goes. Also, if you change your own oil you can do many other things that should be done to keep the bike reliable at the same time. There is a difference in the price charged for an oil change and the price charged for an interval servicing.
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Delta_one
Posted on Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 05:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the Yamaha dealer near me will match or beat any online price I can find and mount and balance for 20 a tire or less on bike

I was 270 installed on a set of Michelin pilot power pure tires mounted and balanced wheels still on the bike
(and I wrote about it before but they also gave me an RSV4 to ride while I waited for them to get the tires swapped : D)
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Brumbear
Posted on Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 09:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Chuck AVC does em for $40 he is moving right now pm me and I will get back to you. Also there is a place in piscataway I forgot the name of it its right down the street from crossroads BMW they do tires not as expensive as H-D they are a rip
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Unravels
Posted on Monday, October 18, 2010 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.nomartirechanger.com/

By one of these. Its expensive, but it will pay for itself and last a lifetime.

I laughed at the dealer the first time I asked how much to change a tire. $500 to change 2 tires parts and labor. Always had tubed tires so used spoons. After hearing that figured out how I could change tubeless tires on my own.

Get the tire machine, and buy tires when they are on sell. Then enjoy all the extra money and lack of damage to your bike.

I buy my tires from americanmototire.com, usually pretty cheap and ships fast.
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