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B00stzx3
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I know I ask a lot of help from you guys...sorry I'm dumb 23 year old lol. Anyways..

I got a pair of DDM Tuning HID's. 55w and 5000k. This is for 2003 XB9R. Plan on running one 55w HID in the lowbeam (for all the time riding) and the other }one in the highbeam. Although I'll doubt I'll need to turn the high beam HID on (with the highbeam switch), I live in the country with lots of deer. My question is do I need 1 relay harness or 2? I know for dual 55w setup they recommend relay harness. So do I need one for each 55w ballast or just 1? Also can I connect more than one harness to the battery?

I've been googling HID threads, checking the knowledge vault, etc. I just don't want to fry my harness or screw up the bike, it's riding season.
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Mesozoic
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If there's TWO power hungry lamps, you want to have TWO powerful relays to drive them. This has the added benefit of placing both systems in separate circuits; in case your low beam circuit fries or dies for whatever reason, you still have a high beam that works (hopefully).
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B00stzx3
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Aite cool Mezo, I'll order 2 relays then. They can both be wired to the same battery? I'm not completley clueless, I have my pops to help me out, but he bareley knows what HIDs are lol.

Thanks!
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Mesozoic
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

np. Yeah, both relays can draw their power from the same battery... it's not like you can stuff another one in there anyway. Make sure you use the proper gauge of wire from the battery to the relays. Don't run some chincy 18 gauge crap or something... there's a reason for some power cables being thick and burly.
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B00stzx3
Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2010 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Meso!! Gonna post pics of everything when I'm done. HIDs...already opened airbox, breather reoute and some new oil lines. Thanks!!
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B00stzx3
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Meso, I ordered some relay harnesses from ebay. 2 of them for $17 shipped. DDM Tuning wanted about the same price...$10 a piece, but wanted $22 in shipping!!

Should be here in 4-6 working days, coming from New York I believe. Better safe than sorry!
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B00stzx3
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Aitey...sorry to necrothread this one. Need some help with this harness!! Turns out I only needed one ( I ordered 2) cuz both ballast plug into one harness. Anyways...

Heres the whole setup with ballasts and bulbs plugged into relay harness


Heres confusion- got extra connector and 2 wires from each bulb, dunno where they go -


Then the other issue- one section for one ballast is very long, so I can throw that ballast behind the fairing and still be able to connect the other side to the battery. However, the other ballast is very close to the battery connections and fuse/relay, no way I can connect the battery and stretch it to put the ballast in the fairing with the other ballast.

Do I lengthen the wires?

I believe this harness was made for cars, but they all seem to be like this.

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Froggy
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

Turns out I only needed one ( I ordered 2)




You need two if you don't want both lights on at the same time.


quote:

Heres confusion- got extra connector and 2 wires from each bulb, dunno where they go -




Those wires give the signal to turn on the bulb. On non-harness setups, they plug directly into the connector the stock bulbs plug into. I can't recall off hand how that works with the harness, I believe the harness plugs into the stock bulb connectors, then the HID plugs into the harness.


quote:

I believe this harness was made for cars,




Yes it is, so its pretty much useless unless you hack the crap out of it. You shouldn't need to add any wire, its too long just about everywhere.
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B00stzx3
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 Froggy thanks for clearing that up. So gonna hafta hack thes things up to get em to work?

Dang, guess I'mma hafta go look for DIY relay mod then : (
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thats what I ended up doing, then my crappy soldering jobs kept breaking, so I yanked it out and now run straight off the factory wiring. Much more reliable, less headaches.
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B00stzx3
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You haven't had any problems with flickering and such? Hot striking?

I was thinking to just hacking each harness in half, using the side with the relay and fuse on it and lengthening the gorund wires to stretch back to the battery. I have sharkskinz full fairing so figure I had room for 2 ballast and 2 of the hacked harnesses after what you said.

Or maybe I should say fudge it and just plug em in plug and play style LOL
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Terrys1980
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The kit I installed on my Bolt was very similar, only diff. I see are the ballast. The two wires that are going through that grommet, with the HID bulb, are going to connect to wires that are currently connected to the stock bulb. You may need to cut and put different terminal on the end. I mounted the ballasts behind the fairing and everything else was secured under the headlights with ty-wraps.

Why did you go with 55W? The 35W are hella bright and do not require relays.

(Message edited by terrys1980 on April 09, 2010)
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B00stzx3
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hrmmmm, that doesn't sound too bad. My pops is good with electrical stuff. I will look at ty-wraps for securing.

I went with 55w because they were only $10 more than the 35w, and figured because I live in a very rural area with TONS of deer-car related accidents it would be my best bet!

Thanks all. It's friday, pops and me will have all night to drink and figure this out!!
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No issues, hell I even hit a car and they still work.

Your call if you want to hack them up, I just am incapable of doing so reliably.
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Mesozoic
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yup, run the two extra wires to aech corresponding original lamp's power. Don't be afraid of lengthening cables, just do it right. Make sure you solder any lengthened connections and use some heatshrink tubing to seal the solder joint... makes it look professional too. Don't reduce the wire gauge either when lengthening... keep it all the same.
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Gunut75
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

}The 35W are hella bright and do not require relays
I did not know this!
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B00stzx3
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2010 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOL Must be quality kit Froggy!

Thanks Meso!!
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