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Dynamicpress
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 06:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can you reprogram the stock ECM with the Data from the Race ECM or is there something else
that comes into play
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Hammer71
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 07:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes you can, I havent figured out how to do it but I was told on another board that it can and is done on a regular basis.
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Mr2shim
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://xoptiinside.com/downloads

Bottom of page. Yes you can. It's fairly simple once you get the cable and the driver installed for EcmSpy.
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Ratyson
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 09:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

WARNING: PRIOR to uploading the race ecm maps, make sure you download and save your stock maps in a VERY safe place... Burn them to a CD.
That way if something happens, you have a base to fall back on.

Also, you will probably need to do a TPS reset after uploading the race ecm maps as well.

Have fun! Happy Tuning!}}
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Teeps
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I tried doing just that and the bike would start, but did not run well and the fan ran all the time with the key on, with cold engine.
Then I learned the memory allocation (so to speak) are in different places on the race ECM vs a stock XB ECM.

The fuel and ignition "maps" can be uploaded to the stock ECM; but it's not the same as the race ECM. Due to internal differences.
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Xbswede
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As Teeps says memory allocations are different. If you want the Race data on a Stock ECM you have to manually update the cells so that the data is n the correct cell. You can not just do a generic over write.
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Ratyson
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 09:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the info Teeps and Xbswede, that is good to know.

I haven't had time to play around with mine yet... Plus, I really want to learn more about the tuning science before I even download an already tuned map.
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Id073897
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The memory layout is identical when using the same ecm type, but varies in size and layout between the various ecm types. It's not possible to exchange memory contents between different ecmtypes.

Regards,
Gunter
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07xb12ss
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can you reflash a race ecm or is it better to just buy a stock one to reflash and sell the race one?
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Nik
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I burned the race ecm map (not eeprom!) to my stock ecm with ecmspy and it works just fine. No copying and pasting or anything like that.
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Deanbush
Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nik, has your mpg changed alot since you installed the race fuel maps? Thanks, Dean
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Nik
Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've only gone through two tanks, but it seems about the same.
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