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Randomchaos
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So, got to looking at my intake today, since the bike is running rough again. It looks pretty messy to me, what would your guys opinion of it be?









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Teddagreek
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Time to get a Catch Can...

All that Crap is gumming things up... I've come to conclusion some bikes are worse than others..


Time for some Gum out...


Good Luck...
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Hammer71
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 on the catch can. You can make one for about 2 dollars
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Fastxb12r
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 on the catch can. You can make one for about 2 dollars

please explain how
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Ustorque
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)





here's mine $15 parts 1/2 hr labor....works like a charm. when you see the crap that comes out you won't believe you were throwing it back in your engine.
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Firebolt32
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've noticed this as well on mine. Could this be the reason when I'm at about 80mph and when I twist the throttle to take off it kinda "sputters"? Doesn't want to go. Feels like it fights me.
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Fastxb12r
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ustorque
could you please tell me what you used specifically and where I might find these parts.Thanks In Advance
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Hammer71
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Connect the two breather tubes in the airbox to a "T". then take the third leg of the "T" and run some hose to a vented bottle (I used small plastic baby bottle). Some use a filter as a vent but I didnt have a need for it.
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Teddagreek
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is that a Auto PCV oil separator...

Sweet...
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Punkid8888
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yup time for a catch can, I built mine for around 15 bucks as well. That coaking can also cause uneven idle and a sticky throttle.
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Ustorque
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is that a Auto PCV oil separator...

Sweet...

it's an air compressor water separator from lowes w/ the filter removed from inside. $11.27

(Message edited by ustorque on July 12, 2008)

(Message edited by ustorque on July 12, 2008)
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Teddagreek
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

KOBALT...
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Firebolt32
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Shawn...Two questions. What size hose did you use at your "T" by the intake to connect the vent tubes? Also how did you route the hose to where in wouldn't get pinched by the inner airbox cover?
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Ustorque
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)





here's the close up


my fellow NEBO brothers will tell you i'm gay for using this, but at least my intake is clean!

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Ustorque
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

jesse pm sent
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Of course your intake is clean...You need to ride it to get it dirty!.....



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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't even run an airbox, and I have a catch can.

My intake looks the same as the dirty one...
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Wantxbr
Posted on Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ustorque that's a great idea.
Is that just a water separator for a Air Compressor? How much and where did you pick it up?
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Firebolt32
Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Quote:


it's an air compressor water separator from lowes w/ the filter removed from inside. $11.27
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Jettdawg
Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's looks pretty good Shawn. I like it!
I should have taken a closer look at your bike yesterday... OOPS!
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Wantxbr
Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Firebolt
I completely read over that.
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Firebolt32
Posted on Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No prob...
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Swordsman
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Y'know, I tried one of those air compressor filters, and didn't like it. I tried to blow through the thing and practically couldn't! It really hampers the airflow, so I was afraid it really wouldn't let the crank case breath back and forth as much as it needed to. While I was running it, it collected almost nothing, despite the fact that my airbox had been a total mess previously. That just served to further my suspicion. Until I get a true catch can, I'm just sticking a filter on the end and letting it drip. Very EPA-friendly!

~SM

(Message edited by Swordsman on July 14, 2008)
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Fastxb12r
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

does anybody know the actual size of T-fitting and hose size?
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Jfruechtel
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It is a 3/8" interior diameter house. You should re-route it out of your airbox though and plug those holes that they come through.
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Ridrnkink18
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what i did when i realized i was getting some pebbles and stuff in my airbox because the intake is so open in the front...there is the little clip on cover that dresses up the plastic work on the intake. take that front piece off and get door screen..wrap tight and rivet it on...makes it look pretty and keeps the crap out...im speaking of the firebolts intake of course
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Ridrnkink18
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

from how it looks...not sure if u were use oil filter or not..looks like u had a little to much on the filter
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Randomchaos
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It did have a K&N filter on it with the racekit. I put it back to stock though. Ive got some parts ordered up to build the catchcan, and will use some carb cleaner to try and clean the gunk off of the throttle body and intake.
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Teddagreek
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

On the Auto PCV kits some catch cans they still route one end back into the intake?

I'm assuming you get more draw that way...

Can anyone explain the advantages of either set up..

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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2008 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Shaun- That is slick! That's one of the best- engineered catch can setups I've seen. You actually used something designed to separate oil mist from air- brilliant!

Ted- The advantage of having the engine draw a vacuum on the crankcase is supposedly keeping the crankcase clear of vapors (which consist of unburned gas vapor and exhaust gases). This keeps your oil cleaner longer which should help engine life. The disadvantage is that these gases contaminate the otherwise fresh, clean incoming air charge, resulting in slightly less efficient combustion and therefore less power.
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