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Fenderbender
Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anybody heard any rumors for '09 models?
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Js_buell
Posted on Saturday, July 05, 2008 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No more xb12s
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Staindus
Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think its pretty safe to assume it will be replaced with the XB1125S but that's just my opinion, only time will tell.
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Prof_stack
Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Or maybe Buell will shorten it to the XB11S or 1125S.

Wouldn't it be cool if they lopped off the rear cylinder and had an XB5 or XB5.625 ?
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Rpm4x4
Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wouldn't it be cool if they lopped off the rear cylinder and had an XB5 or XB5.625 ?

Yes!
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Mesozoic
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 03:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I highly doubt they'd be getting rid of the Harley engine in the Lightning. It's part of the mass appeal of the motorcycle. The Evo engine enjoys a huge aftermarket following, with tons of kits for cams, pistons, heads, etc., making it more akin to the support you find for small block Fords and Chevys. Replacing it with the 1125 Rotax engine is great, but not everyone is interested in an Austrian powerplant with little aftermarket following in the US.
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 03:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

and they would have to add 6 inches to the wheel base!!!! Not a bad thing though!!
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Jos51700
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 08:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"No more xb12s"

And how, exactly, have we established that, since the '09's aren't out yet? (XBXP excluded)
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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, July 07, 2008 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/373648.html?1215367561
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Fx1200
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Possible oil cooled heads like the Euro Sportster with a slightly higher compression ratio and a revised EFI map; stand by for six speeds!
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Guell
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

six speeds arn't happening i was told...
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Mnbueller
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 08:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No six speed. thats too bad...I was noticing the other day how much I'd love to have one. Then I could cruise in traffic at 75 mph at 3500 rpm instead of 4200 or whatever it is. Only reason is I think I would get a little better milage that way.

Also a 6th gear might give enough top end speed to keep up with the jap bikes.
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Xbswede
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Also a 6th gear might give enough top end speed to keep up with the jap bikes."

Don't think so. These bikes already have a hard time getting all the way to the Rev limiter in 5th. Too much air drag and too little HP.
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Mnbueller
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Xbswede - Oh, I didn't realize that. I've only had my bike up to 95 mph. And I'm new to motorcycles so I really have no idea what the capabilites of a jap bike are.

So an off subject question, how much power do the jap bikes make??
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Xbrfirebolt
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"So an off subject question, how much power do the jap bikes make?"

Liter bikes make 50-80 or more horse power than the air cooled Buells.
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Nik
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No six speed. thats too bad...I was noticing the other day how much I'd love to have one. Then I could cruise in traffic at 75 mph at 3500 rpm instead of 4200 or whatever it is. Only reason is I think I would get a little better milage that way.

It's already been shown that XBs get better gas milage in 4th gear at 75mph than in 5th gear, what makes you think a 6th gear would be any better?

Bold new colors!
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Mnbueller
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nik - Because I rode 2 full tanks of fuel, back to back. One at 75 mph in 4th and One at 75 mph in 5th, and I got 3mpg better running in 5th. And that is 5th at around 4200 RPM, if I slow to 5th and 70mph which is around 3700 rpm I gain another 3 mpg. I know that the lower wind drag is probably a big factor, but in my expriance the slower engine speed results in better mpg.
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Slaughter
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh goodie - another 09 rumor thread!!! It has been 24 full hours since the last one started up.

New for 09 - Okra styling themes and square (rectangular) headlights. The factory is tight-lipped on the okra thing. Notice that Buell has not produced anything Green since the S3?

(Message edited by slaughter on July 09, 2008)
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Mm128
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I heard... that they are making a TUBE frame RETRO 98 S1 "STYLE" w/ the 1125R motor...

I heard it from the HEAD DOG.


Matt.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mnbueller, if you want you can swap in the XB12 primary, it will increase your gearing by about 11%. 60 = 3000rpm, 65 = 3250, 70 = 3500, 75 = 3750, 80 = 4000. American Sport Bike sells it.
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Xl_cheese
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

not sure if it has anything to do with 09 models, but one of the local dealers mentioned they are not going to carry any XB's anymore. Just the 1125.
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Mm128
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just so you all know... I WAS KIDDING about my post.

I CANT wait to see what they do next.

I am waiting.

Matt.
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Werewulf
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i just saw on fox news that buell has filed chapter 11, the last bike is rolling off the line as we speak...the blue book value on our bikes has doubled..
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Joesbuell
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buell should make tube frame Buell's again!

The best in my opinion : )
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Point_doc
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Werewulf,

Too much time on your hands...you should be riding!

(Message edited by point_doc on July 09, 2008)
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Jos51700
Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think a new Tube-frame 1125 motor bike could be pretty neat! Too bad that motor isn't pretty.
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Meloman
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 12:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I heard the TT is discontinued in '09 due to poor sales and there will be 2 new models based on the 1125 platform. My guess is a Lightning and some sort of touring version which would then give Buell a sportbike, a streetfighter and a tourer to start the expansion of the water cooled line and the eventual discontinuation of the air cooled line. Only changes for all remaining '09 air cooled models is color.

I'm still an airhead so I just bought one of the last few '08 TT's for $8700 out the door. It's a screamin' deal that I couldn't pass up and it's my 10th buell.

For any TT fans there are tons of '07 TT's sitting in dealer's showrooms begging to be sold. I located about 35 in a 5 state region. I chose the '08 for the improved Thunderstorm motor.

We'll all know the truth in 17 days.
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