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Irideabuell
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yesterday when leaving work and this morning when leaving to go to work my 12S did not immediately start as it normally does. It took a couple hits of the starter and backfired once before starting on both occasions.

Any thoughts? Plugs?
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Punkid8888
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

need some more details

Mileage?
age?
does it sit for months?
kept indoors or outside?
does the bike run normal? idle well?
upto date on services?
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Irideabuell
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

26,000 miles
2004
Ridden back and forth to work daily on top of weekend and evening rides (24 miles each way to work)
Garage kept
Bike runs and idles fine
All service done by me.

This problem came out of the blue yesterday afternoon.
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Punkid8888
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would say you could look into your plugs if your that worried. seams more like it just had a fluke expericence.

You battery might be a bit weak prevent it from firing on the first try, and then the additional fuel is cause it to pop.
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Brumbear
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 07:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

check your grounds or look at the ign system coil,wires and plugs
thats where I would start
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Irideabuell
Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 06:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm wondering if it wasn't just a tank of bad gas. I filled up on my way into work the morning it happened the second time.

That combined with the fact I posted here caused it not to happen last night when leaving work nor this morning on my way in to work.

I just put a new battery in about a month ago too, so I doubt it's electrical.

I guess it really must have been a fluke. The gas strikes me as strange too as I'm a creature of habit and buy my gas at the same BP station close to my home 95% of the time.
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Punkid8888
Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

check your battery terminal connections to make sure they did not get loose, seeing how it was just changed out.
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Kmbuell
Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Isn't there an issue with some bolts being a bit too long and not snugging up on the battery?
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Irideabuell
Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When I put that battery in I used the largest Phillips screwdriver I had and torqued the hell out of it. I can't imagine it's loose already, but I'll check.
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Ccryder
Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The point kmBuell was making is that with too long of a bolt, it would feel tight but, not be clamping the battery cables to the terminals. A fix was to put a washer under the head of the bolt. FWIW: battery terminals are pretty easy to strip so, watch get too happy with that big screwdriver.

Later
Neil S.
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Damnut
Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This has happened to me twice. The first time I didn't know why it happened, I wasn't paying much attention. The second time it did it I know what I did. I was pressing the starter button and released it, by accident, for a split second and pressed it again. When I pressed the starter button the second time the motor was still turning over from the initial press of the starter button and it backfired a couple times. I stopped turning it over immediately, waited a few moment and it fired right up and ran great with no problems.
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Irideabuell
Posted on Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks all. It has yet to happen again, so I'll chalk it up to a fluke issue. Fortunately I was lucky enough to have some good Bueller buddies who warned me to add washers to the battery connectors when I put in a new one.
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