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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2011 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As an "English Major" I CRINGE every time I hear some someone butchering the language.

Hey, how did we diverge from MotoGP again???
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Fast1075
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2011 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And now for something completely different.




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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2011 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can see it's going to be a loooooooooooooong way to Estoril...
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Imonabuss
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2011 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"always find some people will follow the most succesful"

"appreciate otehr riders too."


Aaaauuugghhh! I think you need to come to the US for an English lesson, my friend. Good grief!
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2011 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Superbikeplanet talking dissing Stoner makes me like Stoner more.
I was pulling for him during the epic battles with Rossi simply because he was on the ducati.
But now Rossi's on the Ducati.... oh what to do.
Oh yea... watch and enjoy!
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2011 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whatever happened to sidecar racing? That was some fun stuff to watch! I realize that modern sidecar racers don't look anything like real motorcycles with attached sidecars but it was still fun to watch the rider & monkey teams racing around the track.

Weren't these races held in conjunction with the 500GP at one point?
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Trojan
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 04:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whatever happened to sidecar racing?

Still going strong, but you have to look quite hard to find it now unfortunately. World Championship races went from being held alongside GP's, to WSb and then wherever they could fit them, including being run at some car race meetings I believe.
There is still a good club and national racing scene over here for 'chairs' in both F1 and F2 modes, and Britain is still able to produce World Champions in this sport at least : )

Aaaauuugghhh! I think you need to come to the US for an English lesson, my friend. Good grief!

My typing and grammar skills could probably do with a brush up (at my age I'm glad I can still string two words together without drooling!), but at least I don't make up new words when they are not a necessaryisationalism ; )
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Jaimec
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 08:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What a shame. I was just watching "On Any Sunday" again the other day and I was wondering whatever happened to that event.
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Svh
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Watched the race finally, traveling all week, and Stoner it appeared was doing the "up yours" to the track marshals. Not cool in my book. I watched the crash a few times and it sure seemed to me they were helping the rider who was under the bikes and more than 1 or 2 marshals tried to help Stoner. Honda needs to fix the bump starting issue plain and simple.

I know Vagelis I am a Rossi lover for this post... : )
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Gaesati
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I guess Stoner will never be a cool guy. He is what he is.
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Vagelis46
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 02:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

@Svh ,

I think exactly the same about the help from the marshals to Rossi.

On the other hand , the UP YOURS moment from Stoner was good to happen. He got pissed off, the way the whole incident happened , with him not pushing and be taken out.

Those who thought that Stoner would not have won at the end , they are wrong.

Ducati is testing the GP12 , with both Rossi and Hayden , which seems that they realy try to find out what to do with their design approach.

I would like them to try a narrow V engine , but they seem very *narrow minded* to leave the V-90...
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Jaimec
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 90 degree V has perfect primary and secondary balance. Why would they want to change that?
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46champ
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 90 degree V has perfect primary and secondary balance. Why would they want to change that.
The idea for Ducati to go to a narrower V is to move the mass of the engine forward in the frame. There has been speculation by many that Ducati's handling problem is caused by not enough weight on the front end. This is caused by the fact that the forward cylinders being laid almost horizontal push the mass of the engine (crankshaft and transmission) to the rear. Thus a bigger percentage of the bikes weight in on the rear axle.
The feeling is if the front cylinders were rotated up by closing down the angle between the cylinders, the crankshaft and transmission can be moved forward putting more static weight on the front end.
This is why an 1125 looks like it dose to move more weight to the front end.

What the really need is to get busy with an alternate front end that doesn't use forks so when the front end compresses it doesn't move the tire to the rear as it moves up. Of course you have just created a Bimota tesi. Which is probably the reason the tesi was designed that way to begin with.
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Vagelis46
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

@46champ..

BINGO!!!

it also seems that when Rossi was pushing for a single tire in 2007/2008 , he was sticking his finger to his own eye in 2011. Since the tires suit the Honda and Yamaha.
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Jaimec
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can also move the engine forward by pivoting the engine up, so the forward cylinder isn't completely horizontal. Ducati is the ONLY manufacturer to positing a V engine in this manner. Honda uses a 90 degree V, but the two cylinders are both 45 degrees from vertical.
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Vagelis46
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2011 - 04:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am pretty sure , Honda and Suzuki are using something like V70-V60
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Jaimec
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2011 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was referring to their VFR500 through their VFR800 street bikes. Their old VFR750 Superbike Racer was also a 90 Degree V-Four, as was the RC45. The new VFR1200 is a narrower V, but it's more of a Sport Tourer than a sport bike. I don't know what Honda or Suzuki are running in MotoGP though.
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Trojan
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2011 - 04:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those who thought that Stoner would not have won at the end , they are wrong.

Oh to have the benefit of being able to see into the future! Nobody can say if Stoner would have won or not, not even Stoner!

it also seems that when Rossi was pushing for a single tire in 2007/2008 , he was sticking his finger to his own eye in 2011. Since the tires suit the Honda and Yamaha.

Rossi never pushed for a single tyre rule at all (he just wanted Bridgestone tyres for himself). The rule was thought up by the FIM and Dorna in an attempt to get rid of the huge disparity between Michelin/Bridgestone tyres used by different teams and to try and cap costs. It may surprise you to learn that Rossi doesn't make the rules for MotoGP : )

The 90 degree V has perfect primary and secondary balance. Why would they want to change that?

That is the bigegst problem they face. How to package the engine deisgn that they have to use. They may be able to reduce the angle to around 85 degrees before vibration becomes a major issue, or they would have to completely redesign the motor.
I think they have ideas to improve the bike but lets not forget that it is hardly slow now, so I think we'll see the 800 running at the front later this year and the 1000 being competitive straight from the start next year.
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2011 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

MotoGP heading to Texas in 2013
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2011/Texas+GP+announ ced+for+2013

No mention of what that'll mean for Indianapolis, though...
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Trojan
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 - 05:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No mention of what that'll mean for Indianapolis, though...

I read somewhere (can't rememebr where exactly) that the US would be hosting 3 GP races from 2013 so Indy would stay on the calendar.
Having said that, it would mean that another round elsewhere would have to be dropped and there are a lot of Asian countries also bidding to hold MotoGP races in the near future (Both Thailand and Malaysia are keen to hold a race in addition to India). As most sponsorship these days seems to come from Asia I think it is only a matter of time before we see an F1 style shift in venues with less in Europe and more in Asia. Unfortunately this will inevitably mean circuits hosting races with no spectators and no atmosphere but plenty of sponsorship dollars : (

Dorna have doubled the fee payable by circuits to host GP races from next year, so some of the European circuits are now teetering on the edge of affordability. Sachsenring looks to be losing the German GP because of this, and I can see other circuits refusing to pay the 4 million Euros asked by Dorna for the 'priviledge' of hosting a GP race.
Personally I think that until Dorna/FIM can improve the numbers taking part in the MotoGP class they have a bloody cheek increasing the fees at all!
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I see leading the charge to take Indy off the calendar is our "Favorite Cry Baby." More reason to leave it ON the calendar, I say.
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Davegess
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A made for TV spectacle is what is coming. The punters buying tickets can't pay enough to make them worth the trouble. F1 is well on the way to this.
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

F1 never really cut it in this country. The "Michelin Tire Debacle" in Indianapolis certainly didn't help matters.

Who wants to watch a race with no passing??
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46champ
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I see leading the charge to take Indy off the calendar is our "Favorite Cry Baby."
Who be that link please
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news/indianapolis- motor-speedway-renews-motogp-contract/
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46champ
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It figures
Good memory Jaime you had to reach back aways for that one.
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2011 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It was brought up again when the Texas facility was announced. That's the only reason I remembered it.

However, to give the devil his due... if the track surface is that bad, Indy should DO something about it. IMS is their friggin' SHOWCASE FACILITY for crying out loud. It's the major reason anyone GOES to that city. They should go out of their way to make it the best it can possibly be.

Granted, the big "money making" races (the Indy 500 and the Brickyard) never venture onto the infield, but I still believe they should make an effort to make the ENTIRE facility "World Class" as it deserves.

(Message edited by jaimec on April 14, 2011)
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Amafan
Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Indy just announced today,that they will be repaving most of the infield at the speedway in June.
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Jaimec
Posted on Friday, April 22, 2011 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Indy just announced today,that they will be repaving most of the infield at the speedway in June.




One less thing for Casey to complain about. : )
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Jaimec
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2011 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Super Sic is looking strong so far... but can his tires go race distance? Lorenzo is close enough to the front.

And did you notice who had IDENTICAL lap times in FP2? God has a sense of humor...
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