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Crusty
Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mad Max Biaggi went 330.2 KPH (201.4MPH) on his run for the pole at Monza.
It's the fastest top speed ever recorded in WSB.
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Vagelis46
Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Another Italian scandal.

Gear driven cams by Aprilia, simply illegal...........I hope Aprilia looses.

Only reason to like Aprilia is Camier , he rides flat out. Lets go Leon!!
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Jaimec
Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2010 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mad Max on the pole! Crutchlow again had a good superpole. Now, if Toseland could just get a decent superpole, and Crutchlow could maintain his speed during race distance, Yamaha may just have a shot.

Haga, as usual, didn't qualify very well but I've seen (at least last year) that it doesn't mean much as far as he's concerned. Fabrizio has found his speed... I can only hope Nitro Nori does too.

Xaus was actually faster than Corser during qualifying? This should be interesting!
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Vagelis46
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Haslam is #1 at the championship, thanks to his speed. Not impressed with Suzuki at all. Down on power and bad handling.

Aprilia looked perfect today.

Shame for Toseland , really bad crash. Monza looks really dangerous. Get well soon Mr. Toseland. It was good to see him fighting for the win in race 1.
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2kx1
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BMW on podium.
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Jaimec
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Crutchlow found the speed I was talking about earlier, and Mad Max is now a SERIOUS contender for the title.

Good to see Old Man Corser on the podium again, too. Haga needs a miracle...
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Trojan
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 04:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do you remember the reviews the 1125 got from the journos ?? Very negative reviews that pushed Buell sales down , and never helped the survival of Buell.


Unfortunately part of the blame for that can be laid at Buells own doorstep. The bikes that were launched to the world press at Laguna were simpy not ready and were suffering from poor fuelling and suspension amongst other things. Although Buell did point out that these were pre-production models that won't wash at a world product launch and the bikes got flamed as a result.

Poor styling didn't help either though : (

By the time the production bikes were sorted the damage to their (and Buells)reputation was already done.

Good weekend at Monza although Biaggi looked pretty much unbeatable all weekend. The chicane was a joke and I'm not at all surprised it caused the accident in race two.
I think that the next round in South Africa won't be so flattering to the Aprilia and expect Ducati to get back to the front again on a bumpy circuit that favours their bike more.
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Mutation_racer
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I told you Max is the man.
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Trojan
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think Max may have had more of a fight in race two if his major rivals (Toseland and Rea) hadn't been taken out on the first corner, but he did look lke he was cantering most of the weekend and had no problems getting back past Haslam in race one : (

I hate to think how fast that Aprilia will be once they get the gear driven cams fitted after this weekend : ) What's the betting they race it in GP next year in some form or another.
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Vagelis46
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Was Aprilia using the gear driven cams this weekend ??

I thought they were , because they were +20hp than the rest of the bikes.
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Simond
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...on the armchair dyno? : )

I was surprised to see the Yamahas going so well and it was good to have Ben Spies on the commentary for the second race.

While Monza invariably provides a great spectacle, it doesn't give that much indication of form for the rest of the season as it is so different to any other track. As long as the racing is this close though..... who cares?
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Vagelis46
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My armchair dyno is ......pretty accurate.
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2kx1
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Those were some looooooonnnnggg straights and I was surprised to see the BMW not walking away from everyone. I guess when every bike has been tweeked the power is very close.
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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

2kx1: My thoughts exactly. Also, Corser's been complaining about the brakes. If you don't trust the brakes to stop you, you don't WFO on those long straights before those sharp turns either.
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Trojan
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 04:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Was Aprilia using the gear driven cams this weekend ??

I thought they were , because they were +20hp than the rest of the bikes.


As far as I was aware the original ruling by the FIM was that Aprilia were free to use the new cam gear drive only AFTER Monza but not before. I am not aware if the ruling had been changed since though as I was away for last week.

The BMW is certainly fast in a straight line and is cleaning up in Superstock racing. However, the S1000RR has traction control/electronic wheelie control and all sorts of whizz bang electrickery etc fitted as standard, so has a big advantage in Superstock compared to the other bikes that don't have all the gizmos as stock. By the time they get to Superbike spec all the other teams are on a level playing field or better in terms of electronics, so the advantage is negated.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>> "BMW on podium."

Thanks to DNFs by three front-runners, Toseland, Rea, Crutchlow.
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"In order to finish first, first you must finish."
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Simond
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 07:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

or..... "in order to finish third, first you must rely on freak accidents and engine failures" : ).

It was good to see the BMW up there though. It is a cracking bike.
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2kx1
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 04:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That is racing.
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Buell2001b
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the media just does not like either the Europeans or the American bikes beating he japp bikes.
why is that
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Only in your mind, Bill. Only in YOUR mind.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It is racing; I agree.

What it isn't is an accurate representation of where the BMW is wrt the leading teams in WSBK.
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey, it's their first podium. I never said they were one of the leading teams in WSBK. I don't think anyone would say that about any team after just one third place finish.

Just implied they were on their way, that's all. Having Tardozzi in their corner seems to be the difference this year.
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Trojan
Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 05:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the media just does not like either the Europeans or the American bikes beating he japp bikes.

Which media is that?
Over here everyone in the media is pretty stoked that BMW and Aprilia are doing well. The media over here don't report or comment on American bikes beating the Japanese over here because sadly nobody races them at top level. If they did they would undoubtedly get more coverage.
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2kx1
Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake , I think BMW is just getting started .
With Tardozzi running the team and the chance that Bayliss may come out of retirement, I am sure that next year Toseland,Rea and Clutchslow will be the least of their worries.
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Supposedly, BMW has a "Three Year Plan."

Year One: "Learn the tracks and the series" -- Check

Year Two: "Podiums." -- Check

Year Three: "Title." We'll see...
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>> Year Two: "Podiums." -- Check


Not. One podium by default does not a "podiums" make, not if they are being realistic.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It appears to me that their bike just won't handle well or maybe it's their traction controls that are lacking.
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Season is still young, Blake.
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46champ
Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2010 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Corser was reported to have said the bike (in NASCAR parlance) won't whoa down.
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