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Turf_moor
Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2014 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 06 Uly has the standard exhaust, which I rather like. The fuelling of the bike is perfect and I'd like to keep it standard and reckon it's noisy enough. Has anyone worn one of the standard exhausts out? Can it be expected to last the life of the bike? I do not ride in a country that salts the roads. The exhaust has some rust as they all seem to.
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Etennuly
Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2014 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have seen many of them over 60,000 without rusting through. Ugly as sin with surface rust but still solid and no problems from the internals.
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Turf_moor
Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2014 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The appearance of rust on this type of exhaust worries me about as much as rust on a car exhaust. In other words, not at all. Anyway I have a bash plate covering it.
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Etennuly
Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2014 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What? A bash plate? I thought my muffler was the bash plate!
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Turf_moor
Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2014 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I suppose you're right. It's one of the Touratech ones. Totally unnecessary, but seeing I bought it, it's staying on.
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Etennuly
Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2014 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't blame you, they look much better than a rusty can!
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Turf_moor
Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2014 - 11:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks quite cool too. I've got the mesh Touratech front engine guard on too. That does a useful job.
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Rayycc1
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2014 - 09:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

POR 15 makes this stuff called Black Velvet...you rush it on your muffler...looks like hell as your brushing it on...but come back an hour later and it looks better than most factory paint...Lasts forever....rust will not be an issue again. http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_SPM798084 8308?hlSellerId=23392&ci_src=184425893&ci_sku=SPM7 980848308&sid=IDx20131030xMPAPxCPA28
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Turf_moor
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2014 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I suppose you've got to wire brush the existing rust off, otherwise it will rust from beneath the Black Velvet. Is it crucial to get it all off? Thanks for the link.
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Rayycc1
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2014 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yes...i would wire wheel it or wire brush it off at the very least...i sandblasted mine...that stuff is awesome though.
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Rayycc1
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2014 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I do believe the can says its NOT crucial to get all the rust off first. I don't know if your farmiliar with the POR line...but most of their products are awesome...and all of their products are made to deal with rust. They make a great tank lining kit for old rusty gas tanks too.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2014 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had much better luck with ceramic engine paint than I did with high temp black BBQ paint.

Neither is perfect, but I'd say the engine paint lasts about twice as long.
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M2nc
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2014 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stock muffler does make a great bash plate. On second stock muffler, first met with a tree at about 25 mph. Flattened the muffler a bit but valve and all still worked. I had to replace it because the mounting straps kept breaking on the sharper radius cause by the bend.
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Turf_moor
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2014 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, Ive found a place that sells this Black Velvet paint in England who will courier it to Portugal. This means no import duty as both countries are within the EU.

Many thanks.
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Uly_man
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2014 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The rust is just cosmetic on these cans and I have NEVER heard of one, as yet, that has rust out. If you want to make a std can look good and last get it cam coated as nothing else will last very long including BBQ paint. And yes tried everything else.
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Callawegian
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2014 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a 2 mile ride on gravel to get to paved roads and I repainted my stock muffler over 3 years ago (10,000 miles) with no rusting yet. Rustoleum BBQ paint is all that I used after wire brushing it.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2014 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used to BBQ-paint mine every oil change, as PM. Just part of the service procedure. Drain, refill, clean with carb cleaner, brush, paint, test ride. Bakes it on real good.

I lately upgraded to a ceramic coated muffler. We shall see. I won't know what to do with myself at service time if this holds up as well as I suspect it will!
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Twotalltodd
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2014 - 12:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I noticed rust starting on mine so I pulled it and had a local company ceramic coat it. It looks great and the muffler itself will melt before the ceramic. It cost about 35 bucks I think as for them it was a simple coat job. I am very happy with it. Next for the exhaust pipe : )
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Simond
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2014 - 01:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've had my S2 muffler ceramic coated by Camcoat and Buell UK used to settle warranty claims against rusty exhausts by sending them to Camcoat. It's a nice finish but doesn't last much longer than regular high temperature paint.
It was a shame that Buell dropped the stainless mufflers - I still have an S3 stainless one sitting on the shelf. Putting the muffler under the engine and then making it out of mild steel was not the brightest move for the UK market.

(Message edited by SimonD on May 05, 2014)
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Turf_moor
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2014 - 06:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll do it next time it's serviced.
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Sharkguy
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2014 - 07:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've noticed mine is starting to rust at 22,000 miles. It looks like the tube that vents the fuel tank allows fumes to blow/drip directly onto the rear end of the exhaust can. This is also where rust is starting. Looks like I need to re-locate that tube before spending any time repainting the can, otherwise it's going to happen all over again.
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Uly_man
Posted on Monday, May 05, 2014 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mild steel exhausts rust no matter what they are on due to road/ riding conditions. Seems to me as less of a worry than a bad running bike.
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Dtaylor
Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2014 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sharkguy -- on my Uly the tank vent tube terminates on the inside of the left footpeg mount, and any drips are clear of everything.

There is a hoop or maybe a clip cast in the mount to secure it in place.
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