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Mnrider
Posted on Friday, August 05, 2011 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

First thing is the W/S is 3 feet in front of you but the wind protection is good.

The throttle cables dangle around in front of you.

Not as torquey or quick handling as the Uly.

Shifts really nice and it's smooth running.

I like the linked brakes and ABS.

Thought I heard a piston knock when I gassed it.

Overall I liked it but walked away happy with my Uly.
The Uly feels more compact and felt like it fit me better.
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7873jake
Posted on Friday, August 05, 2011 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I love going to demo days in the spring and the fall (I live near Daytona) and realizing that what I rode in on and what I go home on still make me as happy as the day I bought it and continue to be as much or more fun than what I tested.
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Dr_greg
Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

First thing is the W/S is 3 feet in front of you but the wind protection is good.

Boy, it seems like after riding the '06 Uly almost 100K miles, EVERY bike I ever test-rode felt that way. Too long, too big, W/S way out there...Erik & Co. have done a masterful job in packaging.

The Ducati Multistrada 1200 was the only bike that had a more "compact" feeling, like the Uly. But of course it has other problems...even though I ended up getting one (but keeping my '06 Uly!)

--Doc
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just got back from looking over a blue tenere. What struck me is that there seems to be a number of fragile parts on it. Muffler cover for example. There is a part kinda forward on the side that looks like it's for tipover protection. Looks like it would snap off easily. Lots of fragile stuff exposed on the lower front and under the bike. It should come with a substantial bash plate, not that flimsy plastic piece.
The bike did not look very friendly for the rider who does his own repair and maint. The coolant burp tank looks like you would need some kind of special funnel to add coolant. Just getting the lid on and off would be a pain. Especially if the engine was hot. I could go on but I'm sure the Super Ten is not for me.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

""I could go on but I'm sure the Super Ten is not for me.""

How did it ride? How did it handle - how was the power delivery, etc.?

Thanks

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Teeps
Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dr_greg Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2011

Too long, too big, W/S way out there...Erik & Co. have done a masterful job in packaging.


No wasted space for sure...
The Ulysses is truly 12Lbs. in a 10Lb bag, so to speak.
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Windrider
Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2011 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"First thing is the W/S is 3 feet in front of you..."

I swapped rides with a buddies BMW GS and it felt like I was in a truck compared to the Uly. All of that business out in front.

The Uly gives the impression that are flying along with nothing in front of you and just a motor and two wheels beneath you. I still like that.}
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 12:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I do like the footpegs on the Super Ten very much.
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S_palmer
Posted on Monday, August 08, 2011 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just bought a Super 10 last week to I'll throw in my 2cents here.

When I first got on it felt like it was huge, long way to the wind shield lots of fairing out there. Think v-strom, it takes some getting used to. Up side is great weather protection.

Handling is slower than the Uly, but has excellent suspension and handles well, though not as flickable as a Uly and hard parts touch as little sooner. Off road the slower steering translates to stability, this is the best large bike I've ever ridden off pavement. Standing on the pegs feels like a big dirt bike, much more comfortable and fits me far better than the Uly.

Ride is good, not quite as adjustable as a Uly, no compression adj on the rear shock but still very good suspension.

Power is about the same as the Uly, a little vibration when on the throttle hard, other wise very smooth. Power is good even at low rpm, not a lot of torque down low but will pull smoothly from 2000 rpm even in higher gears. Around town it is much happier than the Uly at low speeds, but Like the Uly its real happy place is about 3 to 5 thousand rpm.

The linked ABS is amazing, just grab a handful and this thing stops now,even on gravel, very little fork dive. The tc makes dirt a treat, roll on some power and let the back end slide, it won't go far.

Some would argue that technology is a poor substitute for skills, the truth is not all of us can ride like RC and never will no matter how much we practice. I'll take whatever help I can get to keep the shiny side up.

While I am loving this bike and it works a little better for the kind of riding I do, when out tearing up back roads I know I am really going to miss the Uly. I wish I could keep them both.
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Fltwistygirl
Posted on Monday, August 08, 2011 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the input, S_palmer.

"it works a little better for the kind of riding I do"

Really, that is all that matters.

"Some would argue that technology is a poor substitute for skills, the truth is not all of us can ride like RC and never will no matter how much we practice."

I'd have to agree that there is no substitute for seat time. I side with the indian on the "not the arrow but the indian" argument.


However, I don't think its necessarily a bad thing when things are engineered to protect us from ourselves.
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Mnrider
Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

After five or six years I start wanting a new bike.
The Super Ten would be my favorite replacement for the Uly if the AX isn't ready or costs too much.
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Hooper
Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have definitely been eyeing this bike from afar, just reading about it. This review was helpful. It sort of sounds like the bike doesn't have much...soul? All things with two wheels and a motor are fun to ride for a little while (some are fun ALL the time), but will it provide a good amount of the grin factor to make it one of those bikes that you can't wait to get on?
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Uly_man
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a 750 Super Ten, did 70k on it, and with a few mods it was a great bike and was a Dakar winner. The new version here in the UK is close to £10,000 which is just stupid money. Apart from anything else it is not a V-Twin which is the soul of a Buell and part of the reason for what it is.
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Rwven
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a 750 Super Ten, did 70k on it, and with a few mods it was a great bike and was a Dakar winner. The new version here in the UK is close to £10,000 which is just stupid money. Apart from anything else it is not a V-Twin which is the soul of a Buell and part of the reason for what it is.

But the Super Ten does have a 270 degree crank which is were much of the ThunderStorm's soul derives from.
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Uly_man
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah so it does.
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S_palmer
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I took the s10 for a little ride over the weekend about 700 miles of pavement and close to 100 miles of dirt. About 50 miles of the dirt was first and second gear rough, rocky, nasty, steep jeep road. I stood on the pegs and played dirt bike with 600 lbs under me for about 50 miles.

That crap was so bad I was half ashamed to take a new motorcycle over it let alone one as large and expensive as an S10.

In the end it exceeded all my expectations, the two guys riding 650 dual sports of course left me far behind, you can only do so much with that much weight, but it always felt under control and did exactly what I ask of it. I even managed to make it all weekend without dropping it.

But here's the fun part, all weekend I had a 65 year old fat man who could barely get on and off his bike follow me every step of the the way. So out of shape he couldn't stand, he sat there and bounced his bike over the same road with very little trouble. He must have had some mad skills about 40 years ago.
Oh, he rides a Uly.

I learned a whole new respect for Ulys last weekend, I would never have taken mine where he did, but in the right hands they are far more capable off road than most people think.
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Mnrider
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great story S
Keep the shiny side up.
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Charlie_zulu
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice story S, I considered an S10 but found a suitable used alternative.
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Andymnelson
Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

After five or six years I start wanting a new bike.




Too funny. I usually itch around 12 months, and have NEVER made it past 18 months without buying a new ride! Until the Uly. I am very happy now, seems the perfect bike for me! I go to dealers, bike show etc and look, longing to fall in love with something new....and they all fall short of my Uly. I'm sure that will all change someday, but for now I am quite satisfied.
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Charlie_zulu
Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Too funny. I usually itch around 12 months, and have NEVER made it past 18 months without buying a new ride!
"

I know what you mean Andy,I'm starting to think it's borderline mental disorder
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Uly_man
Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In 36 years I have had lots of bikes, to many to remember and rode more, and even though I have thought about buying some of the best ones again the only one I ever have is the Uly. I loved the super 10 but I wore it out.

I have said it before and will again. For the money the Uly is in a class of its own.
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Tootal
Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice story S_palmer but I'm not that fat!

Wait, that wasn't me, I can still stand, a little! I was truly amazed where my Uly has taken me but I do have a lot of dirt bike experience and probably see things different than most folks. Enjoy the yammer hammer! They are usually bullet proof! I still have an 85 IT 200 and 86 TY 350. They just don't die...
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Nittanyxt
Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Picked up a Super Ten last week.sweet machine, but the UlyXt is still staying in the stable,which is getting a little crowded!
Greg, how was the trip?
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Tootal
Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, it wasn't boring!! I'll send you an e-mail, the story is too long and I don't want to high jack a thread. We stayed north and went to Niagra Falls so a return trip to your abode wasn't on the route. Thanks again for all your hospitality and the great ride.
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Dr_greg
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I took the s10 for a little ride over the weekend about 700 miles of pavement and close to 100 miles of dirt. About 50 miles of the dirt was first and second gear rough, rocky, nasty, steep jeep road. I stood on the pegs and played dirt bike with 600 lbs under me for about 50 miles...

S_palmer, may I ask your height? One of the things that has been bugging me about all the big ADV bikes (Uly and Multistrada included) is that I can barely touch the ground. That's been partially responsible for my last "tip-over" on the Ducati MTS1200 in the dirt (silt).

I'm 5-8, how tall are you? Can you get your feet nearer the ground on the Super Ten than the other bikes?

--Doc
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S_palmer
Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Doc, I'm 6'1" 34" inseam, I can flat foot the s10 with the seat in the high position.

I had a 06 Uly with a standard seat, the S10 is a little shorter than that with the seat in the high position. I don't think you would have a problem with it.
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Skifastbadly
Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 05:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I rode the S10 today. I'm trying to decide whether to ditch the Uly due to the complete lack of faith I now have regarding reliability (I'm on my second Uly and it's in a shop 470 miles from here). I went into a Triumph dealer and here's what I told him:

I'm looking for something that has visceral appeal. I want to ride long distances, but still have a sporty feel. I want to be able to sit upright, carry a lot of shit, do 90% tarmac and 10% forest service roads. I am looking to fall in love with a bike. I rode the Tiger 800 and it just didn't speak to me, it just didn't have the soul nor the torque I'm looking for.

I was certain that he was going to put me on a Tiger 1050 but they also carry Yamaha and he said "Take this S10 for a ride."

So I did.

I dunno. First, I have the Uly, a Scrambler, and an HD Heritage. On all three bikes, the front end stuff is mounted to the fork, so when you turn, it all turns. I am sure there is a technical motorcycle term for having the front bits mounted to the frame, but I don't know what it is. Anyway, the S10 is like that, the forks disappear down through some plastic and the front end goes out like a 58 Bulgemobile, it just felt weird. The power delivery seemed a bit odd too. It handled ok. It was big. It was expensive. It was Japanese. It did nothing for me. I took the Tiger 1050 for a ride and liked that a lot better. But damnit, why can't somebody make a Uly with bulletproof electronics?
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Mnrider
Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If the HD dealer would have replaced your fuel pump and got you on the road it would not have been an issue.
Too bad the HD techs spend all they're time installing chrome and don't have any tech skills.
Once you get the Uly back I think you'll be good to go.
I'm planning to keep mine and buy another bike for a spare.

Was that a rant?

(Message edited by mnrider on September 04, 2011)
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Tootal
Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am sure there is a technical motorcycle term for having the front bits mounted to the frame, but I don't know what it is. Anyway, the S10 is like that, the forks disappear down through some plastic and the front end goes out like a 58 Bulgemobile, it just felt weird.

That sounds like my old Cagiva Gran Canyon. Great Duck motor with a frame mounted fairing and the front fork really angled forward. It was really weird switching back and forth between it and the Uly but I sold it since it just didn't fit me well. Terrible seat and high foot pegs made for a two hour ride day! Uly will go all day!




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