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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just finished a sport bike class and this Air Force guy had PR2 tires on his bike. I asked how he liked them and he said he was on his second one on the rear wheel. He rode a Kawasaki 1400cc Concourse. He had 27,000 miles on his bike and he said it was put on in 8 months which is quite a bit of riding. His first rear PR2 he said had lasted him 18,000 miles and he said it had life left but not enough for a long trip so he had a new PR2 put on. The one I saw had 8,000 miles on it and he said it easily had 10,000 left on it and I'd have to agree. I figure if I got 10,000 miles out of mine then I'd be happy. Maybe I'll get a bunch more than that if that Concourse comparison is any indication of life of a PR2.
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Barker
Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

18K

How in the hell did do that?

I love the tires, they last a good while but 18k?????????
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Maximum
Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well...I just may have to give in and give them a try. I just finished up a rear Avon Storm (dual compound tire) at 8,000 miles, which is only 1,000 more miles than I got out of each of my two prior Syncs...but I hated the Storms. They felt twitchy to me in the corners and unstable on gravel...I could not wear them out fast enough. I threw back on my half used Avon Distanzia's, which I absolutely love (except for only getting an estimated 5,000 miles out of a rear). So after hearing so many good things about the PR2's, I might have to give them a try...although I do not need to get 18,000 miles out of a tire to be happy...as long as I like the way it performs.
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Glen
Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you guys must REALLY be wringing your bikes out, i feel like all i do is rag on my bike and my syncs look a little over half used at 5k miles.
im in Michigan so there arent alot of curves to burn the softer sides up. a good freeway onramp can make my day lol.
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Florida_lime
Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

im in Michigan so there arent alot of curves to burn the softer sides up. a good freeway onramp can make my day lol.

Trade your roads for mine !

5000 miles MAX on the 5 Syncs I've had on the back (less on the 2 D616s).

I've got a set of PR2 in the garage just waiting to go on in a couple of weeks.
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Barker
Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just took off my PR2CT it lasted about 6-7k. It is just about bald all over. It looks like a slick.

No burn outs, no rear wheel skids.

I always checked my pressure. I run it @ about 38-40 psi.

What am I doing wrong.

(Message edited by barker on June 19, 2009)
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My first Dunlop 616 was changed at 10,000 miles and it had a couple left on it. I put another 616 on it and it was bald in 6,000 miles and I didn't ride it as hard as the first. I've had this PR2 on for a 2000 miles and I like it so far, but time will tell. The Air Force guy was in his late 30's by the looks of him and said he posts to Adventure Rider.com and I can't remember his username but his first name is Austin and he's from Georgia. He road to Omaha from some Air Force Base in Georgia to learn how to be a Military Sport Bike Course instructor. 1200 miles each way. Another guy road in on a GoldWing from a Florida Air Force Base and that was 1400 miles each way. Mostly in rain I might add. The range portion of the Military Sport Bike Course is very challenging and we put some students through it yesterday.

(Message edited by electraglider_1997 on June 19, 2009)
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Etennuly
Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got 6,000 miles maximum on each rear tire that I have had, one 616, three Syncs(one failed at 3500). Then I got a PR2. It did 10,000 miles, if it weren't for carrying a plug for 8,000 of those miles I might have run it another 1,000. It wasn't near showing threads yet.

I like the way it handles also. I was very pleased with the Syncs, this is better.
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Wbrisett
Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

5-6K is about all you'll ever get out of the syncs, avon Storms, or 616's here in Texas. Between the chip and seal roads, and the melt your rubber heat 9 months out of the year, you simply expect to put on a couple pair of tires a year. I just put on a new set of syncs Saturday. That'll be my third set of syncs on the bike and I've only got 13K on the bike.

Remember roads have as much to do with tires and the compound of the tire. When a large chunk of the roads you ride on are nothing but tar with some rocks toss over the top of it, you're not going to get tons of miles on them.

I just finished up a rear Avon Storm (dual compound tire) at 8,000 miles

I loved the storms on my RT, but haven't put them on the Uly. I've kept the syncs on it. Can I assume that even though you didn't mention it, you had storms on both front and back?

Wayne
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Werewulf
Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

believe it or not , your location plays as much as your riding style... there used to be a map of the usa and tire life put out by firestone...the rocks they put in the asphalt are different in various locations...

the states around the mountains has the highest tire wear, if i remember the map..
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Galloper
Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I loved how the Uly handled with BT014's but they only lasted 2000mls (bald).
I have my second set of Pilot Road's on now and it looks like I can squeeze 7000 mls out of this rear tire. Twisties in the ardennes, Luxembourg and Schwarzwald it doesn't matter for the Pilot Roads it can handle them.

Gonna put a new set on in september just before I leave for my solo ride to the Schwarzwald/Swiss border.
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Arcticktm
Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I doubt this is your issue Barker, but just in case:
I have seen a few cases where riders or dealers thought they had Pilot Road 2's, but really had Pilot 2CT's.
The names are very confusing.

I have Pilot Road 2's (per the actual name on only 1 side). I talked a co-worker into them for his VFR. We were at Wheeler's shop south of Deal's Gap.
Ken pulled down 2 sets of tires that were actually Pilot 2CT's (sportbike/softer) before he pulled down the real Pilot Road 2 (also marked with 2CT for the dual compound).
They were just about ready to mount up the first pair when I decided to check the sticker and sidewall just for the hell of it.
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Crempel
Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I emailed the folks at Dunlop and they said their recommended pressure for the RSs is 36f and 38r. This even thought the web site says 42 f/r for all sizes. FWIW
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Sanchez
Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> your location plays as much as your riding style

Interesting. I didn't know that.

I get about 6k out of my rear tires, give or take. I've had a Dunlop 616, two Avon Storm STs, a Continental Road Attack, and now I'm on a Dunlop Roadsmart. I got about 7k out of the 616, 6k out of the Storms, and 5k out of the Road Attack.

The RoadSmart looks pretty good at 4k, but it's hard to tell where it will end up. The rate of tire wear increases as the amount of remaining rubber decreases.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Barker, you and I have similar problems.

We have a riding style that's not friendly to tires.

Dragging a knee, getting the bike drifting through corners, braking to the point where your rear wheel is nearly hovering off the ground, trail braking into turns then getting hard on the throttle at the apex and letting the rear end squat down a wiggle as it claws for traction.

If either of us get 5000 miles out of a tire, we should fall to our knees and thank God it lasted that long (and that we haven't center punched a tree). LOL! : )

I stopped buying tires for my Uly. I just run my track take offs. Typically, they are toasted on the very outer edges, but have plenty of street life left in them. When I pull them off the Ulysses, they are typically bald from shoulder to shoulder and have cords showing through.
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Atoms
Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The original rear Sync on my 07 has over 9k on it. I am seeing wear bars - but no cords, I will replace it soon.

I thought it was stupid hot and the roads were crap here in Illinois, but I guess the riding style my grandmother taught me has had a bigger impact on tire wear than road conditions.
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Wbrisett
Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought it was stupid hot and the roads were crap here in Illinois,

I'll trade you both weather and roads. It's 103 today and with chip and seal roads, your tires are simply eaten away.

Wayne
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Longdog_cymru
Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If your Airforce guy is getting 18k out of a rear tyre on an Uly, there can only be 2 explanations............

1. He puts it on a trailer and tows it between bases!

or

2. The USAF ship it for free!

Because he sure ain't pulling the wire properly!!!!
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Dhalen32
Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 07:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Craig:
Did you notice how gently Austin rode that Concours? That is how he is getting that kind of mileage out of a rear tire. I'm guessing that you or I would likely only get half that many miles before it needed replacing.
Dave
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Jphish
Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 09:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Arcticktm - Thanks for the tutorial on PR2s. I didn't know there were 2 versions. Checked mine and pleased to discover the Pilot Road designation only on 1 side. It does indicate the 2CT as well. Got 'em from Motorcyclesuperstore - looks like they got it right. j
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Florida_lime
Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For reference: the Pilot Power 2CT and the Pilot Road 2CT do have a different tread pattern, so if you are familiar with each tire, it is easy to tell the difference.

Just as easy for someone NOT familiar to confuse the two.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dave,
He was the slow man in the group when I rode with him on the range. Got in another group to have more fun. I'm not real hard on my bike for the most part and really hope to get 10 grand out of my PR2 but we shall see.
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Zekster76
Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 04:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On my xb12ss I replaced the stock pirelli diablo on my rear due to a nail stuck in it, 3,000 miles later it already was wearing a flat in the center, I don't really have a lot of curves were I'm at in my day to day travels, put the PR2 dual compound on and still the tire is holding it's profile, they are starting to get close to the wear bars in the center it's been at least 8k but would need to pull out the receipt for an exact figure
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