Author |
Message |
Squidravioli
| Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 06:49 pm: |
|
00' X1, first large bike and first fuel injected bike I have ever owned. Just got the bike two weeks ago. When I go to start it it takes longer than usual to start. It will not start without giving it a bit of gas during start. It usually has one major backfire and then starts. Bike idles kinda rough for a minute but then smooths out once warm. Bike rides out normal, no hesitations or sputters. Any thoughts? |
Squidravioli
| Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 07:20 pm: |
|
Where can I buy the ECM spy cable for my bike? (cheapest place) |
Natexlh1000
| Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 06:35 am: |
|
Sounds like you're cracking the throttle open too much or playing with it while it's cranking. Mine needs to just barely be touched to start and maintain a fast idle on start up. Remember to keep it below 2000RPM when the engine is cold. |
Squidravioli
| Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 07:51 am: |
|
Thanks Nate, sometimes it won't start without blipping the throttle but I'll make sure not to pull too much throttle. I guess I'm "flooding" it. |
Tom_b
| Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 08:50 am: |
|
Too much throttle during cold start like Nate said. Mine would do the same thing. |
Squidravioli
| Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 09:30 am: |
|
Thanks! Any thoughts on Fuel Injection cleaners? Bad JUJU? Or could it only help? |
Hootowl
| Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 10:43 am: |
|
My bike won't take any throttle for starting. Make a fist. Extend index finger. Push starter button. Any throttle at all and it won't start. Do you have the idle adjustment cable installed? It might be set too high. Try backing that off a bit and then try a no-throttle start. |
Kalali
| Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 11:01 am: |
|
You could play with the values in the Cold Start Enrichment table to see if that improves your condition. As for the ECMspy cable, I'm not sure if it's the cheapest place but I bought mine from American Sport Bike (Message edited by kalali on March 02, 2011) |
Hootowl
| Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 11:39 am: |
|
That's where I'd send my money. |
Squidravioli
| Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 11:45 am: |
|
Thanks guys, is the ECM cable and ECM spy easy to use? I have 0 mechanical experience. |
Natexlh1000
| Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 06:29 pm: |
|
I know it's supposed to start with the simple push of a button but mine has always required a tiny bit of throttle to start cold. BTW, DON'T blip. Hold the throttle steady when it's cold and barely touch the gas too. I mean hardly even noticable. We're looking for a fast idle, not 3000RPM. Be nice to it; it's just waking up! Also, I wouldn't bother with the F.I. cleaner. Just put some miles on it with fresh gas. |
Lager
| Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 09:03 pm: |
|
Funny to read all this. I thought here along that mine was just funny like that. Never crack the throttle after you hit the starter and it spins over a few time from the idle position. Mine will backfire or spit out the intake and kick back against the starter motor causing all sorts of bad noises. It seems to lean out if you add throttle while cranking causing all the above. But if you leave the throttle closed, after about the fifth spin, it should fire off. Thats a long crank time I know. You can also crack the throttle just a lil, then hit the starter button? That usually will fire off a bit quicker. Sometimes. Fun huh? Its a pretty simple fuel injection system, it has its quirks. |
Desertfox
| Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 10:34 pm: |
|
I've started my bike (99 X1) with a simple push of the button down below freezing temps. What you're describing is definitely some kind of a problem. Holding the throttle open may be a way to start the bike, but there's still a problem. Backfiring and spitting out the intake are also abnormal. (or, at the very least, not desirable) Stay away from any fuel additives. I tried a fuel injector cleaner and a week later I found that the seals on my fuel pressure regulator had hardened and cracked. It may not be what caused it, but why risk it? You might actually have the TPS set incorrectly. Always a nice and easy place to start. |
Natexlh1000
| Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 06:17 am: |
|
My attitude is first pretend that there is nothing wrong with the bike. I would suggest getting some miles on it before altering it. At least one whole tank of fresh gas. A TPS reset wouldn't hurt anything of course. (unless you have it done wrong) |