| Author | Message | ||
     Bprigge |
Hello everybody. I have a 97 S3T with a Vance and Hines slip on muffler. Do to inattention on my part i've pretty much wrecked the 90 degree elbow that connects the muffler to the header pipe. I now have several severe cracks in the elbow and need to take care of this before I lose my muffler completely. The header has a 2 inch outlet. Last week I bought a Vance and Hines slip on off of Ebay (used) and wouldn't you know it the sucker has the 2.5 inch inlet. So i'm wondering if there are any headers off of other model Buells that have a 2.5 inch header outlet and that will bolt up to my 97 S3T heads? Any advice appreciated, thanks, Bruce | ||
| Sleez |
if you get the 98 S1W/S3 header it will bolt right up. and has 2.5" outlet, the 98 S1 will be the same as what you have already. i ran my 97 s3 this way for a very long time, most people will say it doesn't work very well, but it ran fine with no ill effects at all. picked up a bit as far as i could tell, never dynoed it, so can't give any scientific data. | ||
| Bprigge |
Thanks Sleez! So your saying the 98 S1W/S3 has a 2.5 outlet but the 98 S1 (without the W) is a 2.0 outlet? Bruce | ||
| Guell |
yep, thats correct. | ||
| Sleez |
as Guell says; Yep that is correct. the race pipe is also a 2.5" outlet but exits further around to the rear, no elbow required. both 2.5" outlet pipes are getting pretty hard to find. your other options are going with an aftermarket pipe, like a Force or KT if you can find one!! | ||
| Whitetrashxb |
It could either be for a 98 S1W/S3T, or it could be for 99 up tubers. Different V&H for the different headers, even tho they both have 2.5" collectors... actually, i THINK if the elbow is separate piece or held w/ sphrings, its for a late model, the one on my WL has the elbow welded on James (Message edited by whitetrashxb on March 01, 2011) | ||
| Bprigge |
Thanks guys. I just went out and held the new muffler with the 2.5 inlet up to the old one (2.0 inlet)and it appear to have the same bend and spacing and mount location as the bad one thats on the bike. It's really the elbow; it's held on with springs, that's damaged. I'm thinking that finding just the 2.0 inch elbow would be way to much to hope for. There's some good prospects on ebay. Are all the tuber headers attached to the heads with 2 bolt collars? There are headers pictured on ebay that don't appear to have any collars. Bruce | ||
| Blks1l |
The collar is a retainer, that is held on with a snap ring. | ||
| Someday |
Bprigge, The collars are removable from the header pipes by removing a retaining ring from the end of each header. | ||
| Buellistic |
EXHAUST ASSEMBLY Class 101 available to those who want a copy, just PM me ... | ||
| Trojan |
Bprigge, Do you have a European bike or a US model? Euro Tube Frame Buells all had 2" inlets for the silencer whereas US bikes had 2.5". If you buy a pipe from Ebay in Europe you'll probably get the smaller size but vice versa if you buy in the US. If you want to fit a US pipe to a UK/Euro bike you/ll need the headers too  | ||
| Bprigge |
Well that's interesting, didn't know that. I guess I got a European pipe on the bike and need an American one to make my new used V&H muffler work. | ||
| Bprigge |
PM sent to Buellistic for the Exhaust 101 class. | ||
| Terrycoxusa |
If you don't mind using a couple of clamps, you can get a reducer coupling at any auto parts store and make it work, 2 to 2 1/2 or vice versa, that's what I did. You can hardly notice it. | ||
| Guell |
You don't have a European bike, 97 bikes had the 2" outlet. I've sold 2 vance and hikes 2 inch muffler in the last year, they are out there just keep an eye out for them | ||
| Sleez |
Bprigge; Trojan's comment about 2" outlet pertains to the 98 up, the US 97 also had a 2", as i stated earlier! | ||
| Sleez |
the 99 up headers will not work with the older frames, tried one on my 97, wouldn't clear the frame without smashing the pipe. | ||
| Terrycoxusa |
Here's a photo of my $3 part, plus 5 for the extra clamp  | ||
| Bprigge |
Terrycoxusa, I thought about rigging up a reducer, haven't totally abandoned the idea yet. NAPA has both 2.0 and 2.5 inch right angle turns, that's what I really need, the right angle turn. The NAPA turns have ridges on the inside of the turns though, definitely un-Buellish but plenty cheap! Your coupler looks good to me, I'd run that on my bike if I had your muffler. Bruce | ||
| Trojan |
Trojan's comment about 2" outlet pertains to the 98 up, the US 97 also had a 2", as i stated earlier! Aha I never knew that. You live and learn I suppose  We never got any pre 98 S3 models here so I assumed all US models were the same. | ||
| Sleez |
Trojan, no problem, i am constantly learning something i "thought i knew already" keep up the great work you guys do! | ||
| Bprigge |
OK, one of the guys on the forum has a new header with a 2.5 inch outlet. The header was bought new for a 2001 M2 Cyclone. Can anyone tell me if this header Will bolt up to my 97 S3T without taking a hammer to it? thanks, Bruce | ||
| Guell |
Nope, won't fit, that's an under the frame exhaust. You need a 96-98 exhaust.98 had the 2.5 exhaust |
