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Jules
| | Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2010 - 01:49 pm: | 
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I run my Barker without the QC and with an Erik Buell Racing ECM and have no issues at all with the electrics or the noise, I have to ride past a police station on my way to/from work and do so at all hours of the day/night.. Short shifting and keeping the revs down mean it's a perfectly acceptable sound level..
The "bang" on startup is a bit embaressing but other than that it's absolutely fine |
Albert666
| | Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2010 - 01:57 pm: |
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ha, i thought it was only me with a loud "bang" on start up, good to know i'm not alone |
D_adams
| | Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2010 - 02:09 pm: |
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Weird. I don't think mine "bang" on startup. It's more like a BOOOOOOOM!!!!!!
Maybe Dris has a different way of testing the sound, kinda like the dyno testing numbers are different than what we get over here? |
Easyrider
| | Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2010 - 03:00 pm: |
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Adams, life is short enjoy it, (-: |
Dannybuell
| | Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2010 - 03:03 pm: |
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THX guys. |
D_adams
| | Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2010 - 04:45 pm: |
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Just pokin' at ya Easy.  |
Xodot
| | Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 11:36 am: |
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Ratgin,
If the cities are adopting sound level to enforce they are creating by-laws - NOT provincial laws (like the Highway Traffic Act). Therefore the enforcement can not effect your licensing history and they can not give you demerit points on your license, even if it is a police officer, not a by-law officer, doing the enforcing.
There has not been any movement towards that legislation in my area.
cheers
xodot |
Ratgin
| | Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 04:39 pm: |
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Hi Xodot
It's coming. They are all bylaws and the fine hurts. Most cities are $150.
Caledon just enacted the bylaw this summer and that's pretty close to you.
Interesting part of the Caledon by law is Police officer pulls you over and by law guy is called out to do the test.
Pretty close to being detained while your sitting roadside waiting on a by law enforcement officer but that's another issue for later.
Interesting point is the Factory Buell exhaust is loud and the standard being adopted is 92 idle and 96 at rpm
Id like to change the exhaust and ecm but i know id just spend that 1500 and the city will pass the darn by law. You know how it goes... sometime it just isn't worth the hassle as it causes issues for both of you.
(Message edited by ratgin on November 22, 2010) |
Littlebutquick
| | Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 05:18 pm: |
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they are even bringing sound levels in to drag racing they are testing sound levels next year only in sportsman not top fuel  |
Cravacor
| | Posted on Monday, November 22, 2010 - 11:50 pm: |
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The cops in my area don't seem to mind about loud bikes. I've not heard of anyone getting tickets for noise. My bike is pretty loud and I've never had a problem. Even the time I got pulled over they didn't mention it. |
Xodot
| | Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 08:58 am: |
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Ratgin,
I found the Caledon by-law. It comes into effect in Oct 2011. It targets motorcycles (not trikes or spyders?! interesting...)
The noise limits are:
92 db at idle
96 db @ 2000 rpm for 1,2,5,or 6 cylinder bikes
100 db @ 5000 rpm for 3 or 4 cylinder bikes
There is a section too: "No person shall refuse to provide a motorcycle owned by him to an officer of the OPP or by-laww officer for the purpose of conducting a sound level test on the motorcycle owned or operated by him when requested to so by an OPP or by law officer"
The by-law can be enforced by OPP or by-law officers.
I am wondering if the "refuse to provide" clause violates the Charter of Rights and Freedoms which states:
Section 8. Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure.
Section 9. Everyone has the right not to be arbitrarily detained or imprisoned.
"Reasonable" and "arbitrary" has been tested in the courts.
When a motorist is stopped by the police and the officer has grounds to administer an alcohol screening device test on the roadside but he/she does not have that piece of equipment, he/she can request another officer bring one to where the motorist is stopped. There is a time limit, prescribed by the courts, for the screening device to arrive and the tests conducted. If it takes to long to arrive, the motorist's Charter Rights have been infringed and any evidence gathered after that point in time (IE the results of the device indicating the blood/alcohol is in the illegal range) cannot be considered by the courts. In other words, the motorist can not be convicted.
IMO the same considerations must be taken in regards to the noise by-law investigation. Since drunk driving has more serious impact to society than noise, the length of time for the noise measuring device to arrive on the scene must be somewhat less than the blood alcohol measuring device.
You are right Ratgin, this legislation will only spread in our area, |
Dannybuell
| | Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 10:40 am: |
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Cravacor - "the time I got pulled over they didn't mention it" nice cop he didn't pile it on.
Xodot - "Since drunk driving has more serious impact to society than noise, the length of time for the noise measuring device to arrive on the scene must be somewhat less than the blood alcohol measuring device" wouldn't a noise measuring device have a lesser priority and thus be less likely to be received in a timely manner? |
Smit3833
| | Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 01:06 am: |
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I've got the RT-4, Erik Buell Racing ECM, and K&N with about 3000 miles on it and here is my 0.02 cents.
Its very loud, but it sounds amazing. Some days it seems louder than others, but whatever.
It has the initial sonic boom when you start it up, sets off car alarms. So far I haven't been pulled over, they have to catch me first Inside a parking garage small children cover their ears. There is no sneaking in or out of work since it shakes the windows. It makes car around me much more aware that I'm there, I've yet to be cut off since putting it on.
Oh yeah and it makes a ton more power. |
Ratgin
| | Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 01:57 am: |
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Xodot Danny
They gave the testing devices to By-law officers as they are expensive and they only wanted to by 2 iirc.
So they will "detain" you while they await the by-law guy to arrive due to cost cutting measures,
Dont think it is worth the paper its written on but then im a cop not a lawyer. |
Easyrider
| | Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 02:46 am: |
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That would be nice making power our off a quit new to develop exhaust and still be able to get the db-killers out and let it sound deep and dark, and don't scare little children (-:
MMhh good idea.... for my new 1125 Exhaust (-: |
Bigevildoer
| | Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 - 09:48 am: |
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Hey Xodot....
I'm in Waterloo Region - maybe we can hook up for a ride in the spring...
Had a D&D on my bike earlier this summer, and I had a few cops lookin' at me, considering pulling me over (you know the look they get) for noise I'm sure (wasn't speeding at the time, on a residential area).
Switched to an HMF since then, and no complaints since then (except from my new neighbour who doesn't like being woke up 10 minutes earlier than he normally gets up).
Later!
Snowing here right now - not alot, but still is. :-( |
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