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Jcbikes
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 11:30 am: |
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Saw this today on motorcycledaily.com http://www.motorcycledaily.com/10december07_liquid cooled.htm |
Xl1200r
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 11:35 am: |
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Uh, wow. Could that have been any more vague? Buell is a motorcycle manufacturer. Of course they're working on other models. |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 12:00 pm: |
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I heard that they plan on using a two wheeled set-up on the next model. |
Cereal
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 12:02 pm: |
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I do like the idea of a smaller motor. Probably pure speculation on the writers part though. |
U4euh
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 12:07 pm: |
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They are supposed to use an underslung exhaust also?! wow |
Barker
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 12:18 pm: |
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That one great piece of journalism. I think we are going to see more 1125 based bikes before we see another water cooled displacement. "I think the powertrain (1125R) you have experienced it on the road, and it's a great powertrain. There is still lots of potential in the power train so we plan to use it on a number of future products and expand the offering of that platform " - Jon Flickinger I waiting on a 1125X |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 12:29 pm: |
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I would like to see a 750 or 800cc version ala the Shiver. I would like to see a smaller displacement version of the 800GS. |
Bill0351
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 12:41 pm: |
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If they are going to change the displacement, I would like to see an M3 1325R Cyclone in orange and grey. Bill |
Jlnance
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 01:01 pm: |
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I would like to see a smaller displacement version of the 800GS There are some 650cc BMWs aren't there? |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 01:03 pm: |
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I don't want smaller than the 800GS. I want a Buell version of the GS. |
Pwnzor
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 01:36 pm: |
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I want a scramjet-powered hoverbike. |
Bcordb3
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 01:37 pm: |
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BMW has a line 650's (F650) and a line 800's (F800). Both dirt and street configuration. An 800cc Buell GS would a great bike! Just read the article in Motorcycle Daily that was posted. Not to vague is it. Remember the dirt bike Buell was playing with about a year or so ago. Maybe it will be back. Who knows? I know the Shadow knows? (Message edited by BCordb3 on December 11, 2007) |
Slaughter
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 02:01 pm: |
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Ok let me trot out my Daddy's favorite expression:
quote:Wish in one hand, shit in the other and tell me which one fills up first.
Let's see... the "T" version, the "Nekkid" version, the "Low" version, the "Racer version" the "dual sport" version... Let's start adding displacement differences, bore/stroke... super motards, dirt bikes. GEEEEZ! Do any of us really realize how FEW people there really are at Buell - ??? Huh??? Think their product evelopment "department" can deploy say, a few dozen folks to develop some of these concept bikes??? Meanwhile continue working on producing the 1125R - plus the entire XB line and the Blasts. Piece of cake - Buell MoCo - get TO IT! RRRRriiiiiiiight!! It's freaking miraculous that they can put out the stuff that they DO put out given the very few folks they have on staff! |
Ridrx
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 02:08 pm: |
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...and aside from some "questionable" Firebolt lighting it's all top notch stuff. Good job BMC. |
Igneroid
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 02:10 pm: |
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Its kinda like commin to a barbeque at my house. Everyone wants their steak a certain way. In the end, you get a burnt piece of meat cooked by a drunken chef.....where was I going with this?.....?..... great thing about Alzimers, you meet new people every day.. |
Cityxslicker
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 02:13 pm: |
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I want to be a motorcycle journalist. Hell I think I can blather better. Next new bike that Buell wont build, rumor it is a rotory powered fixed wing satelite launched re entry vehicle. |
Buellerandy
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 03:20 pm: |
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someone out there would run with it |
Slaughter
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 03:44 pm: |
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rotory powered fixed wing satelite launched re entry vehicle. REALLY??? |
Igneroid
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 04:12 pm: |
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REALLY??? How do you like your steak?? |
Mainstreamer
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 05:11 pm: |
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What do you think would be the advantage downsizing the 1125 motor? Probably not enough weight savings to be significant.. Lower Insurance rates? Smaller rad pods? your thoughts???? What would be the advantage over the A C motor? |
Jayvee
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 05:30 pm: |
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Possibly some countries where there's a 1000cc tier for taxation or something like that. That was my impression of why the 900 was built, period. Reduce displacement to, say, 998cc so more sales theoretically possible? Especially in countries where association with H-D is more of a hindrance than a help. |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 05:32 pm: |
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What do you think would be the advantage downsizing the 1125 motor? Why have 600's? Why not all liter bikes? Smaller displacement bikes tend to be lighter, better off road, and are generally more nimble on road. Air-cooled bikes are fine, but are not nearly as light. The power to weight ratio for a GS or Shiver version of the 72* V-Twin would be attractive for both street and off-road alike. Plus, I already have an air-cooled. |
Not_purple_s2
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 05:39 pm: |
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Yeah, I don't see the too much point in making a downsized water-cooled engine at least not any time soon. If you don't need the extra hp or can't afford insurance then stick with the XB line. However, I could see a need for a 1000cc or smaller water cooled bike if the XB12R is ever discontinued. |
Buellerandy
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 06:06 pm: |
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"However, I could see a need for a 1000cc or smaller water cooled bike if the XB12R is ever discontinued." Blaspheeeeeemer! But I see what your getting at |
Xb9
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 06:38 pm: |
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If Buell goes smaller displacement it will be to compete with the SV 650.. |
Birdy
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 06:54 pm: |
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I do find it strange that the XB9R went BY BY. Only the City-X is left with the smaller motor now. The Blast is only in the Spec part on the sale book I have. Looks the 1125 is going to be the top dog with the XB12R left for the "Old School" guys and of course the S models and Uly. Who really knows! I mean besides Court! And he won't talk I bet...even for all the Fried Okra in the world. Yes I want his book when it hits the rack. |
Mtch
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 07:09 pm: |
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"However, I could see a need for a 1000cc or smaller water cooled bike if the XB12R is ever discontinued." the 12r will be discontinued when the supply of sucky headlights runs out. |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 08:43 pm: |
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Buying smaller displacement bikes isn't just about "not being able to handle the power" or "wanting cheaper insurance rates". I am really interested in the 690 Duke. Riding a slower bike fast is sometimes a more rewarding experience than riding a more powerful bike. Deal's Gap is a prime example where faster bikes are not necessarily better. Passed a few 'Busas on the Uly. Wrong tool for the job. Wanna be humbled? Just wait until you work your ass off to catch that 125/250cc Supermoto that just passed you like you were parked.......and can't. If I lived in Kansas, I'd want an 1800cc drag bike. Here, I want the lightest good handling bike I can get. Imagine 90-100HP with the same flat torque curve the 1125R has in an S wrapper with the short wheelbase, Benelli TnT side pods, Speed Triple bikini front fairing, shortened mono-posto rear. I'd like mine in black on black on black, please. |
Cityxslicker
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 09:28 pm: |
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I can tell you they wont build a DS/SM rotax powered 450cc . news at 11:00 |
Not_purple_s2
| Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 10:14 pm: |
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"Imagine 90-100HP with the same flat torque curve the 1125R has in an S wrapper with the short wheelbase, Benelli TnT side pods, Speed Triple bikini front fairing, shortened mono-posto rear." FB, I'm imagining an XB9SX with TnT side pods and a Speed3 fairing glued to it. |