| Author | Message | ||
     Dynarider |
Well of the primary cover anyways. Hmmm, looks very XB like, really dont have a clue as to the large hump in the front tho. Also have heard the Sporty is supposed to be mono shocked & 2" longer this year. | ||
| S3dave |
Maybe they put a crankshaft balancer in it??? | ||
| Sarodude |
Lightning strikes twice... -Saro | ||
| Cyclone1 |
Shouldn't need a balancer with rubber mounting  Frank | ||
| Spiderman |
>>>>>Shouldn't need a balancer with rubber mounting What a bout the V-rod?? | ||
| Ar15ls1 |
Is this going to be a "REAL" SPORTSTER? Maybe Harley has turned this bike into something very unique. The sportster was the hot rod bike of the 50s and 60's right? Now hopefully it will once again live up to its name. Keep up the good work Dyna! You are keeping us pretty well informed on both the vrod and the sporty. | ||
| Ar15ls1 |
Dyna, I am also getting a strange feeling that you may even like the new Buells. I think that you are coming around. | ||
| Dynarider |
I do like the new Buells..not enough to buy one tho. If & thats a big IF they had the V-rod motor I would be first in line. Im liking the V-rod the more I see em. When they first came i out I thought they were ugly, but they tend to grow on you. Plus once you ride them the power is fantastic. PS..I have a couple people behind the scenes who are helping me with some of this info. They obviously dont want to be revealed however. PS.PS. I think the new sporty is going to kick ass!! | ||
| Court |
>>>IF they had the V-rod motor I would be first in line. Never happen. Even if there was, someone may have read that and trashed the plans.  | ||
| Darthane |
Guy #1: "Psst...that guy Dyna said he'd buy one!" Guy #2: "Aww, SHIT! Well, we'll have to go back to the drawing board...the universe might implode if that guy gets ahold of a Buell again!" edited by darthane on July 22, 2003 | ||
| Jim_m |
"IF they had the V-rod motor I would be first in line." Now I agree with the VRod being to big for the XB line, but, knowing how literal some are here  what is the word on a water cooled engine in general. Is it still "no way" or is it a possibility (thinking along the lines of the ST2, where only the jugs have a waterjacket (IIRC). Not sure if there would even be a real, tangible benefit (other than tighter tolerances), but I'm curious. Language tends to be used in a very exacting manner by those who know how to use it, and there has always been an emphasis on the "VRod motor", but not so much with a water cooled motor (that I recall, though I may be missing bits and pieces of my recall abilities due to the coming onset of old age ;^D ) | ||
| Tripper |
Well there ya go using anonymous sources. Your credibility just went down the crapper.  | ||
| Mikej |
I'm thinking if it has the V-Rod engine it will have Harley on the tank. Any new water cooling configuration will also probably be a new engine configuration. | ||
| Jim_m |
"I'm thinking if it has the V-Rod engine it will have Harley on the tank. " My thoughts too. "Any new water cooling configuration will also probably be a new engine configuration." Well, depends on what the benefits would be. Granted, the XBs are the most reliable (so far) engines in Buell history, and are right up there with the rest of the world (I would give it a few years before any claims exceeding that statement can hold any validity). I don't see HD/Buell bringing out a whole new engine configuration. I can see a different version of the VR1000 motor in an XB chassis used to go racing, with a limited number for public consumption (outside of homogulation purposes). I guess it depends on where Erik wants to be in the market share. I don't see why Buell needs to be tied to the air cooled single/twin market (though that's what I prefer). A VR based platform would round out the line up nicely (as would a Dual-sport, but that's just me  ) | ||
| Cyclone1 |
I think that if Buell wanted a kick-ass motor built they would do it. They have the financial backing to do so. Why waste time with "THE V-ROD MOTOR" It's already in the H-D's. I think Buell could build their own water cooled motor, and outrun any V-rod if they chose to do so  Frank | ||
| Glitch |
I can see a different version of the VR1000 motor in an XB chassis used to go racing, with a limited number for public consumption (outside of homogulation purposes). That would be too cool. I'd love to see that! | ||
| Ray_maines |
Tripper says Dyna's credibility goes down for having cited anonymous sources. Well, maybe it does with all of us Lower Level Dudes (LLD's) but the Really Cool Guys (RCG's) on the BBS seem have the highest regard for anonymous sources. In fact, the glory of being the very first to receive secret information from anonymous sources is a large part of how status as a RCG is maintained. Insinuating that you know the identity of someone else’s anonymous source is another way of maintaining your RCG status. This is all true and accurate but I can’t tell you who told me. You just have to trust that it was someone who has access to this information and wants to share it but can’t figure how to do that without exposing his identity and, therefore, getting fired. I’m thinking that my secret source could just sign up on the BadWeB with a typically anonymous “handle” and post anything he wanted, but apparently that would too much trouble. So There! Now Dyna and I are RCG’s too, and all of you LLD's can be in awe of our general overall coolness. edited by ray_maines on July 22, 2003 | ||
| Blublak |
 Awwwwwwwww.. Hmmmm I guess since an anonymous source told me that there's something I can't tell you.. does that mean that I can still hold some Awe, just no shock. So consider yourself and Dyna both Awwwwed.. and I'm just holding.. As for my anon info. Well, if you have access to it, then you already know and can't say. If you don't then you can't know and therefore don't care. So that makes me.. uh.. Uh..  I have no idea. But I do know that I just need to ride some more.. now, which bike to take out? Hmmm... Later, | ||
| Dynarider |
Cool, so now Ray & I are RCG's?? WOW!! I feel so humble. BTW, notice I back up my postings with pics to prove some of the anons. Like they say a pic is worth 1000 anons BTW #2...What will the Buell faithful do when Harley introduces the XB motor in a sport or race tuned XL? Im sure it will be toned down a bit but thats easily rectified, & anyone who says a sporty cant handle obviously hasnt ridden one. Come on over & join me on the dark side boys, you cannot deny your true destiny any longer | ||
| Mikej |
I had an XLCH back in the early 1970's, kick starting the thing was an exercise between pain and joy, the electric starter never did work right on the thing. Riding it was fun. As far as handling, it did fine, but it wasn't a Buell. Comparing the two is like comparing apples and oranges, I like them both but they taste different. As far as what would happen if they stuffed a Buell prepped engine into the Sportster? I think you'd start seeing more Sportster and Harley riders start looking a little closer at the Buell line. There is no dark side, just dim bulbs. Open up the eyes of enlightenment and ride. What you ride is secondary to that you ride. But then you already knew that. | ||
| Sarodude |
Dyna's been reading too many of EZ's posts... -Saro | ||
| Dynarider |
What you ride is secondary to that you ride. But then you already knew that. I know it & you know it..hell I will ride anything with 2 wheels. But a lot of the true blue, died in the wool, Buell freaks & geeks have this nasty habit of dismissing Japanese bikes as boring or "soul less", & have this misconception that Harleys are all slow & cant handle. Im not saying a softail is gonna hand an XB12 its ass on a track, but a well prepped sporty is no slouch & will do just fine. Besides, todays bikes are so much better than the riders that not only can most people not use all the handling capabilities of the XB's, but they also cant explore all the handling that the sporty is capable of. | ||
| Dynarider |
Saro..I think EZ stole it from me a few years back I get 10 cents everytime he uses it. | ||
| Bomber |
I've ridden a well-sorted sporty, and it was good fun . . . . not as easy to ride quickly as my M2, but fun, nontheless . . . .. . I agree that a Buell Motor in a Sporty would make some HD die-hards look closer at Buell, but, with the sporty going away and being replaced by a wanna-be Dyna (bike, not the man), I don't think that's gonna happen anytime soon | ||
| Dynarider |
I agree that a Buell Motor in a Sporty would make some HD die-hards look closer at Buell I dont know Bomber, most folks who are buying or want to buy a Harley will not consider a Buell. Sure there are a few crossover folks, myself being one of them. But by & large the Harley faithful are not interested in the Buells. Its the same feeling the majority of the Buell riders have towards Harleys. Harley is getting exactly what they want out of Buell. Using them as a testbed for future Harley products..ala the VR1000 being used for the V-rod..& at the same time making a few dollars on the brand as well. I know Blake doesnt believe the testbed theory but IF the sporty shows up with the XB motor..thats going to happen..& IF the sporty shows up with a monoshock rear that will help to bolster the theory up. | ||
| Mikej |
But I thought some anonymous anony said the new Sportster was specifically NOT getting the/a Buell engine. Hmmm, perhaps we're talking semantics and in at least one anonymind the Buell engine is actually a Harley engine and therefore his/her statement remains true regardless of which engine it uses. Oh well, pontificating the possibilities of potentialities by the pond. | ||
| Nxtr |
 Look On the Bright side, then all the HD techs will have to know how to reset the TPS correctly, I think it is great. And on Sportsters out handling Buells, I am not even opening this can. Back to the original thread "2004 Sportsters" any more pic, or info? Contemplating replacing my X1 with the new XB12S, but keeping my 1974 XLH. V/R, Nick | ||
| Dynarider |
And on Sportsters out handling Buells, I am not even opening this can. Back to the original thread "2004 Sportsters" any more pic, or info? Nobody said the XL would outhandle the XB, all I said was the XL is no slouch & will do a lot better than a lot of folks give it credit for. With the right rider & the bike set up properly the XL can suprise more than a few XB owners. No more pics or info as of right now. Pics of the actual bikes are locked up real tight in the old mayonaise jar on Willie G's back porch Have never seen this level of security regarding a new bike from Harley. | ||
| Mikej |
It does look kind of cute with it's white skirt shrouding it though. But that might have been just a camoflaging accessory. | ||
| Bomber |
Dyna . . .while I agree with Blake about Buell NOT being a testbed for product technology, I'm willing to bet (well, a beer anyways) that Buell's design and production facility IS running pilots for HD . . . you may never see a monoshock Sporty with it's engine floating in the frame, but I'll bet you'll see some mysterious tools haning from data cables connected to the ceilings appearing in Capitol Drive (as they were last summer up in East Troy), aswell as molded body parts and the like |
