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Bikerrides
Posted on Thursday, December 18, 2014 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My 95 S2 has not had the fuel cell recall, which the recall says the tank could leak at a seam in the plastic at the filler opening. Well, mine has a slight seepage and I am wondering if there is a way to repair/seal the cell rather than having to find and purchase a recall cell.

Anyone else ever had this issue and/or success repairing a fuel cell with a similar issue?
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, December 18, 2014 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check with a friendly dealer first...you may be able to get a freebie replacement.

If you want to take a shot at DIY...grab a soldering iron. It's plastic. "weld" it back together.
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Mhlunsford
Posted on Friday, December 19, 2014 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just an Idea: try a M2 tank - much easier to find one.

If you interested, let me know I have both and could try it out.
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Court
Posted on Friday, December 19, 2014 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The S2 has a plastic fuel cell with a cover over it.

The M2 has a single piece fuel cell.

They are not interchangeable.
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1313
Posted on Friday, December 19, 2014 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the recall says the tank could leak at a seam in the plastic at the filler opening.

The seam is nowhere near the filler opening. If you read the bulletin (in the KV), it details 2 areas of concern; the seam, AND the filler opening.

If you're seeping at the seam, you're probably best replacing the tank - hopefully by Ratbuell's advice, at a friendly dealer.

If you're seeping at the filler opening, I'd try GENTLY tightening the screws on the ring, concentrating where the seeping is and/or the 2 screws closest to the rollover valve. The early (recalled) rollover valve on the S2 did not clamp down on the plastic of the tank, where the later (recall fix) rollover valve does.

Heck, careful removal of the ring, cleaning the components and applying new Hylomar might fix it too - if the seeping is at the filler opening.

HTH,
1313
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Mhlunsford
Posted on Friday, December 19, 2014 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

my thought was to put the M2 tank on the S2 without the cover.
Not sure if the M2 tank on the S2 frame would mount that was secure or not - but just a thought. Or go with one of those mantra tanks ?
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2014 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

First, it's "manta", as in manta ray.

And no, it won't work unless you swap the tail section too. The S2 tank cover attaches with two screws on each side, to the tail section plastic. It becomes a single body line, not two separate pieces.

A manta tank would effectively turn the bike into an S3 as far as bodywork is concerned.

S2:




S3:


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Buelliedan
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2014 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just an FYI,
S2 tanks are not available at a dealer.
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Screamer
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2014 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There are six different part numbers for S2 fuel tanks. If you truly need a replacement tank, there are a handful (potentially) of the retail part-numbered tanks in the dealer network.
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Court
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2014 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is an accurate statement . . . . .

Like several things, mostly unplanned, there were some S2 and S3 items that got produced to "minimum production quantities".

In addition . . . the cell part of the S2 fuel system is fairly immune from damage in many cases . . . and there have been plenty of S2's head to the big parking lot in the sky . . . so, I wouldn't see finding one as much more than a challenge.

In the instant case . . . which sounds like a de minimus leak . . . I'd go with the Ratbuell trailer park weld. Then, once I got the bike in service . . . I'd start my quest for a new fuel cell.

Fact of the matter is . . . it's gonna be a LOT easier, unless you are happy riding about with bungee cords, to find a fuel cell than to put a Manta tank on an S2.
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Bikerrides
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2014 - 08:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ideally, I'd like a NOS recall tank at a low price. If not, I'd want to repair the tank, if that can be effectively and safely done. Or, then a good, used recall tank.

I actually have a M2 tank: if it would fit, it would look like shit, which is not an option!
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Hootowl
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2014 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Buell-95-96-S2T-Fue l-Cell-61379-94Y-/261622831468?pt=Motorcycles_Part s_Accessories&hash=item3ce9ef996c

Auction ended...doesn't say it was sold. This item was posted by a HD dealer in Texas. Perhaps you could contact the dealer directly.
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Screamer
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2014 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bikerrides,
The two part numbers that still show up in couple of dealer's inventories are 61466-95Y and P0110.8Q
Ask your local dealer to do a "parts locator" search to identify the dealers.
"Parts locator" results won't guarantee the dealer still has it stock, but I've had good results with it.
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Bikerrides
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2014 - 09:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanx Screamer. I'll check it out.
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Bikerrides
Posted on Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The fuel is not leaking around the gas cap, but between the metal flange, rubber boot, and the cell fuel opening itself. I looked at the parts book and didn't see a gasket; just the boot.

Is there a sealant that I could use to try to seal it or do you think a new boot would do it. If I replace the boot, would a sealant be needed?

Tried to upload pictures, but it won't work on my iPad.
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Smoke
Posted on Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

remove, clean, reseal and reinstall. the tricky part is the vent. the nut is in the fuel tank. hylomar but not silicone as a sealer.
tim
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Lynrd
Posted on Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hylomar. Accept no substitutes. I would inspect tank and cap ring for flatness, If the tank itself has a significant non-flatness, I would begin a quest for a new tank - but I've not ever seen a S2 tank with that condition

On the S2, the filler ring retaining screws penetrate the inside of tank itself - they are oval head wood screws. Possibly you're leaking from around one of those...maybe a stripped hole?

in any case, Hylomar is what I would reach for. The tank should not pressurize so Hylomar would be the best chance of sealing - there is no gasket other than the boot. I'd try that before replacing the boot...run about a .125" bead of Hylomar around each hole - each screw, vent, and the filler hole.

Then I would get out the popsicle stick and bubblegum and try the her the damned tank vent in without dropping it into the tank 30 times.
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Bikerrides
Posted on Saturday, December 27, 2014 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks guys, I'll give that a shot!
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