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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i went out this morning for work to start bike and i push the button.....nothing...do this 3-4 times and vrooom... shut it off and try again..all set it seems.

went to store tonight and same thing happens in the parking lot..i checked the battery and it is tight as can be...

any suggestions? i'm thinking loose connection some where or maybe bad switch?
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Moonrunrs
Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Same thing sometimes happens to me and I bought a new battery recently. Haven't had time to bring it to the dealership.

this is weird, but what I do if it gets bad is open it up then loosen the screws on the battery and retighten them. then it starts up fine. there's obviously something wrong; need to take it in.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ummm... moisture in the switch? I'm grabbing at straws.
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Shakeybender
Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had the same problem. Turned out to be my relay. There are 3 of them and they all are the same. Switch them around you will know right off if your headlight doesn't work or no ignition etc. Great news is they cost 5 bucks. Nope you can't get them off the shelf at the metric or strictly HD dealer. Gotta be Buell. p.s. If you wack them on the bench you might get a few good starts out of it.
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Shakeybender
Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah!! I finally posted on BW. I've been lurking for a year now. You guys rule. Kept me out of the shop plenty. So I hope that helps someone out.
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 07:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks! and WELCOME ABOARD clint!! i will look into the relays. for the short money they are i'll order all three. nice to have a couple on the shelf. i'll try and ohm them out and see if i can get them to "act up"

happened today before leaving for work...had to "shake" the bike...then it fired. i better get this fixed or it is going to bite me in the bum bum.

i'll know what it is at that point, i guess. i hate it when things do it intermittently(sp?).

makes finding the problem fun
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Darthane
Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 08:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FWIW, those relays are standard 'half-ISO' footprint relays. You don't need special Buell ones or anything like that.

Since only 3 of the 4 slots in the relay block are actually used, I keep a spare one in the empty slot 'just in case'.

It could be a loose connection/spread terminal/broken wire anywhere in your start circuit in addition to the aforementioned relay. I'm assuming the rest of the bike appears to be functioning fine? You don't lose lights and cluster when it won't start, only the starter, yes?

Unfortunately, attempting to track down a problem when it's not actually a problem at the moment is one of the more frustrating ways to spend your time. I spent most of three days, including nearly an hour on the phone while I was at a movie theater, attempting to solve a no-start issue on the program I work on last week. You'd never in a million year guess what it was. >.<
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 08:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bryan,
Is "half ISO" all you need to know if you are just going down to your local NAPA to buy the relay?

Any other spec.s?

Thanks
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Darthane
Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, there's a billion different manufacturers for the damned things. The 'half-ISO' refers to the footprint of its connections. Three smaller parallel contacts and two larger ones perpendicular to those three.

If you're going to go down to a NAPA or something similar, I'd suggest that you simply bring one of the ones from the bike with you instead of attempting to explain to the person behind the counter what you're looking for.

They are 5-pin, which means that they have both a normally open as well as a normally closed contact. They come in 4-pin versions as well, which do not have the normally closed contact. As long as the footprint is the same, either variety will work in your bike.

Obviously, the specs vary a bit by manufacturer, but generally speaking these relays can handle ~17A continuous current for a good, long time, which is WAY more than your bike will ever pull through it.
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