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Ferocity02
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2008 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The cords on my rear Pirelli Diablo are starting to show. I locked up the rear tire on a slow offramp and scraped the remaining rubber off parts of the tire. Anyways, I was planning on going with a 190 in the rear just to improve the looks a little bit. I know it may hurt cornering, but my bike is mostly used in the city, so I'm not too worried about it.

I have nearly new Dunlop Sportmax D208 180 wide in the garage, but if the 190 looks that much better I'll buy a new Pirelli, and this way the front and rear tires will still match.

So if you have pics of a 190 rear tire then post em up, thanks!
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Swordsman
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL, get out the fire extinguisher, 'cause you KNOW someone won't be able to resist telling you what you should and shouldn't do to your bike.

I'd love to see it as well... does that require a different swingarm or anything (I'm a total noob on tire sizes)?

~SM
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Firebolt32
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was looking at this myself. It seems to me that the 190 would rub the belt guards. If your good enough with a small cutting wheel you may be able to shave the guards down a bit. You also have to consider the width of the rim. My father-in-law put a fatter tire on his bike. It fits but the people chewed the shit out of his rim trying to get it on. Maybe someone who has actually done it will hit the post with some info.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can't believe Bads isn't in on this yet, he runs the 190.

I too am maybe looking for the 190. Yes it will fit without having to remove the gaurds I believe. You'd have to remove them if you went to a 200 though. Anything larger than 200, you're looking at a chain kit.
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Ferocity02
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The width of the stock rim is within limits for the 190 tire, and it should fit just fine in the swingarm. I don't have the belt guards anymore so I don't know if those would be an issue. I believe I need to get a 190/50 which is just a little bit shorter than a 180/55. I thought I heard that a 190/55 would rub the tire hugger.
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Skinstains
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have 190 Pirelli's on two of my bolts, 03-9R and 05-12R. They both have chains now but the 190's were on with the belts before I did the chain conversion. I run a 190/50/17. I put the tires on the rim myself and if anything, the wider tire makes it easier to mount. You may want to run the 190/55/17 to make it drop into turns a little better but if you do you will have to remove the hugger as it will hit the tire.
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Firebolt32
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hugger as in the small rear fender, correct?
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Point_doc
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am running a 190/50 Conti, but before this I had a Corsa III 190/55 with NO problems. I had about a 3/16 clearance on my hugger.

(Message edited by Point_Doc on August 18, 2008)
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Mnbueller
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes hugger is the small rear fender. I think the hugger fender moved to the outside of the swing arm in 07 or 08 modles.

Check here for pics of a 190 rear
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/144420.html
For those who want to know.

Tire Diameters

180/55 R17 = 24.79 in.
190/55 R17 = 25.22 in.
190/50 R17 = 24.48 in.
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Point_doc
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My bad for not adding pics...hope these help.




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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

for you guys running the 190...issues with handling?
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Point_doc
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No...I know Kevin Drum runs the Diablo Super Corsa 190/55 on his race bike and he states that his bike handled better. He wanted the taller tire and putting a 190/55 gave him want he wanted.

(Message edited by Point_Doc on August 18, 2008)
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Bads1
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

John... you knew I'd chime in didn't ya. I run a Michelin 190/50. It doesn't rub. If you run the same brand tire in the 55 series it will rub on the hugger. Different brands may not. A 200 Dunlop will also fit with the belt. But its a Dunlop that was designed for the HD's.
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Point_doc
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dana...not sure what you're implying. Maybe you can explain your opening statement "you knew I'd chime in didn't ya."?

Your opening statement seems provocative.
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Bads1
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Read Buellinachinashop post. His 1st post in this thread. Nothing provocative about it.
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Point_doc
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not seeing it...explain? And then explain why you would be involved? Are you the first and only to run a 190 tire?

I am not seeing the connection between you and I and how I should have known. There are at least six other poster's on this thread, why should I have known? Did the others know?

If you can help me to make this connection, then I'll be on the same page as you. Please understand I am not trying to be difficult, just not making the connection on how I should have known.

Glad it was not provocative, thanks for the clarification.




(Message edited by Point_Doc on August 18, 2008)
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Bads1
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 03:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buellinachinashop posted.... can't believe Bads isn't in on this yet, he runs the 190.


Bads is me and why shouldn't I be involved??? I don't think you read this hole thread before responding to me.
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Point_doc
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bads1,

When you opened your sentence with John I was under the impression you where addressing me, not knowing that there is another John here.

A friend called me up and explained that there is another John posting on this thread, I did not know.

I apologize for any confusion or miss giving’s.
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I *think* Slaughter runs a 190 tire simply because you can get them easier at the track than you can the 180.
I don't think theres that much of a difference between the two as far as handling goes.
I used to feel differently, but since then I've ridden two XBRs running 190 tires.
I'd not have know if I wasn't told.
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Borrowedbike
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm running 190 Rear, Pirelli diablo supercorsa Pro's. It's a great tire and absolutely no handeling problems. I'll go to a Corsa III in the same size when I run out of takeoff's.

The KV has a few threads on this, lots of discussion on turn in etc... With the Pirelli the 180 is a bit closer to a 185 to begin with, os if youve allready got a pirelli on it's a very minor change. I hardly noticed the difference.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Point, Dana and I know each other, I'm John as well. Sorry about the confusion.

Would a HD dealer give you crap about putting a tire on that was bigger than spec or is it a better idea to take it to a non-dealer?
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Point_doc
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

lol...Buellinachinashop, thanks.
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California69gs
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 06:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

is there really a big difference in looks between the 180 and 190. i'll need new tires for next season so i'll be watching this post closely. thanks.
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Skinstains
Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 09:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't know what to say...my Pirelli 190/55 rubbed the hugger so I took the hugger off. I only run the 190 because %55 of 190 is more than %55 of 180. How's that for a firm grasp of the painfully obvious ? I think alot of people just want to be able to say they have a 190 or 360 or whatever. Try different sizes and shapes and stick with the one that suits your needs the best.

(Message edited by skinstains on August 18, 2008)
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 12:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"A 200 Dunlop will also fit with the belt. But its a Dunlop that was designed for the HD's."

Can you get that 200 on a standard rim with no mods?}
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Fastxb12r
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As "Buellinachinashop" said also who has done the 200 and I need pics please.
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Ferocity02
Posted on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I believe a 200 recommends a 6" rim. I'm guessing you can physically mount one on a 5.5" rim but not without greatly increasing the danger factor of the tire failing for improper mounting.
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Xoptimizedrsx
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well i too run the 190/50 conti same as john.. i have no issues at all with it. but i run a chain drive with the ratio a little higher than factory one tooth on the front a 21/front and 49/rear.

seems to be good for me there.

if your worried about fitment look at the xbrr spects. its all there.
mike}

(Message edited by xoptimizedrsx on August 21, 2008)
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Surveyor
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ran 190 Supercorsa pros for some time and while they fit ok there was minimal clearance between tyre and belt. I found the handling fine but as I use the bike almost 100% on the track the tyre got very hot and clearance was significantly reduced when hot. - looks don't bother me as I was getting free part used 190s and now I'm getting the same deal on 180s and they work good too.
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Hawkperformance
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a 190 on a 2004 XB12S.
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Petebueller
Posted on Friday, August 22, 2008 - 07:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have an 07 XB12R, and at the moment there is only 3 mm clearance from the inner metal metal plate of the chain guard to the tyre. A 190 would rub on the belt guard on my bike.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Friday, August 22, 2008 - 08:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

32 posts an 2 pics? CMON.
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Hexangler
Posted on Friday, August 22, 2008 - 08:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A little off the Buell topic, but an old riding buddy of mine used to shave the chain side of a tire with a grinding wheel to make clearance on his Laverda Jotta.

Kinda like this:





...oh, and this is a Jotta:





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