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Dynarider
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually there are some photos of Koz's bike somewhere here. He posted them a while back...right after he added the monsterous sized Sporty turn signals. I gave him some shit over those babies:D
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Jim_m
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aaron,

yeah, I was thinking stock heads. I wanted to try to keep them as equal as possible. Have you had a chance to play with any 12s yet?
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Dynarider
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No good pics of the derby cover on his bike, did find this one tho.
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Aaron
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jim, no, we've had one on the dyno but no projects yet. Should be fun though.

Daniel, I can't really do that in a public forum, it wouldn't be fair to the person we did the work for. Besides, we always like to have a long talk with the owner about his goals and budget and put together a plan specific to him.

The main thing as always is what RD has said here many times, work on what's holding the motor back. I hate quoting him so much, but the more I learn about this stuff, the more I realize the old coot's right. The motor's output is not defined by the sum total of a bunch of small contributions from go-fast pieces, it's defined by the level of the part that's holding it back. Until you work on that, you're just spinning your wheels and wasting money.

With respect to XB9's, Misato has it right IMO. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather sell head work and engine kits, but honestly, that stock pipe is the big constraint. The pipe he bought is actually a bargain, too, when you look at it on a hp per dollar basis and compare it to say the race kit or especially the race kit for tubers, which was similarly priced.

edited by Aaron on September 04, 2003
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Darthane
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aaron, would that high performance O2 sensor work on a race-kitted XB9R? If so, where might I get one/what's the P/N?

Bryan
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Aaron
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That sensor is something Dynojet sells to help their Power Commander do a better job. I doubt it'd do anything for a bike that doesn't have a PC3. But we'd be happy to sell you one anyway ;)
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Darthane
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 06:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL...well, if the price is similar, why not? I'm not really interested in it for a power gain, though hopefully it is a 'better' part than stock. I just want to replace mine at the 15K service and I'd rather not spend whatever the dealer asks for one. Most likely I'll end up at Autozone. -=shrugs=-
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Buelliedan
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 07:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The sensor from dynojet cost big $$$, The 12014 at Autozone ran me $18.
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Darthane
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ah! A Part Number, finally...but are all the Buell O2 sensors the same, or will that part not work in an XB for whatever reason?
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Apex1
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The BOSCH 12014 is what I used to use for my X1. Not sure if it is the same for the XB's, as I've not had to replace one yet (7k mi. & all is well).
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Aaron
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

XB sensor: S0130.02A8 msrp: $29.95
X1 sensor: 65970-99Y msrp: $24.10
Dynojet High-Performance Oxygen Sensor list price: $99.95
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Apex1
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the info, Aaron. I didn't think the X1's (also S3's) & XB's were the same. Anyone know the BOSCH equivalent that is suitable for XB's?
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Darthane
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Doh! Ditto what Apex said.
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Uwgriz
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dyna, don't worry, I've got ya covered..

M2

cover


edited by uwgriz on September 05, 2003
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Dynarider
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thats it!!! A couple weeks ago we were talking about hideous seats & I mentioned that exact bike. I have seen it around town a couple times, but not in the last couple years. I dont recall that paintjob on it tho. New paint, same old ugly seat.
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Uwgriz
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The blue with the stars are new. Used to just be red.
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Gonen60
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


That seat is 100% Gay..

Sweet Jesus make it stop !!!

edited by blake on September 06, 2003
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Uwgriz
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If the conversation about the derby cover wasn't over here, I probably would have posted it in the R-rated section.
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Bads1
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know where that guy live's with that goofy bike.Also talked to him a couple of time's enough said.
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Bads1
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He also made that pipe.Dyna it's louder then that X1 that was at the 20th.
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Dynarider
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like bub pipe.


Probably made the pipe just before he made that gay seat. That is by far the ugliest thing I have ever seen done to a Buell.
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Bads1
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll tell you what it looks better in the picture the in person.
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Dblhaulxb9s
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know things have gotten away from the orignal meaning of this thread but back to that. Screw all of the engineering, heads, bore, stroke, displacement. What really matters is who is riding the bike. I would bet the Nicky Hayden would kick any of our asses on any damn bike. 9, 12, Honda Rebel 250 whatever. Just go and ride. I would be right now if it wasn't dumping rain.

Sorry, just amazed at the amount of time spent researching this and talking. We all know people with faster bikes that we can beat.
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99buellx1
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What the HELL was THIS guy thinkin'??!!!?!?!

Victory?

Talk about confused!




Craig
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Spiderman
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LMFAO!!!

Please tell me that is Photo Shop in work cause I don't remeber that>
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99buellx1
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Seriously, who would do such a thing!??


Craig
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Gonen60
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Talk about confused!



Oh yea, the old "Victory Buell" a rare beast for sure !!!...LOL}
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Aaron
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2003 - 12:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry to change the subject, but ...

Big Bore XB9 versus Stock XB12R hp

Big Bore XB9 versus Stock XB12R tq

The big bore XB9 has ported heads and a bored throttle body and an Nallin Racing/Force pipe & Power Commander. Stock cams.

Both bikes were dyno'ed the same day on the same dyno.

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Buelliedan
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2003 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aaron,
You answered my question with that dyno sheet. Thanks!!
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Usapitbullz
Posted on Sunday, September 07, 2003 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aaron, which big bore kit was on the XB9 which you dyno'd?


Thanks, Joe
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