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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No more endless debates about the benefits and pitfalls of water cooled vs. air-cooled.

Ahh! I will miss them.

Now we can have two Bad Webs, one that is for the air-cooled boys and one for the water cooled.

Kinda like the old air-cooled VWs vs. the water cooled VWs.
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Snakedriver
Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So what cool name should their section of the BadWeb be called?

Leo
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How about -

"Just standing around the watercooler" ?

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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 05:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wateR Bucket
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Xbrad9r
Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

perculaters

(Message edited by xbrad9r on July 07, 2007)
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Xbrad9r
Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

steam rollers
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Xbrad9r
Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The AguaBuellers, faucets, sprinklers, heavy drinkers, sippers, liquid refreshments, rain makers, light drizzlers, tinklers, wee wee crew,

"hey im on a roll here" (grabbin my collar like Rodney Dangerfield)



(Message edited by xbrad9r on July 07, 2007)
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Xbrfirebolt
Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Faster Board
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Ustorque
Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

how bout "the no longer able to work on my own motor XB owners group"

come on thats funny
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Lake_bueller
Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

At least for the first year...

"Wet Behind the Ears"

: D: D: D
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Ustorque
Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

sorry i've become very negative today....must be the weather.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ustorque,

I understand your concerns. I think others here share them. There will be a learning curve on the new engine for sure. Rest assured, there are few places on the planet where you would find more folks with better knowledge allowing support in your efforts to service your own machine than here on Bad Web.

From folks I have spoken with who have had the Rotax (if that is in fact what it is) engine, it is not difficult to work on. More complex, but not any more difficult to work on. The biggest difference is in the valvetrain configuration. Is it pushrod hydraulic, OHV? What are we looking at?

Obviously there is another system that has been introduced into the mix, coolant. This adds an additional level of complexity.

Look at it this way. They can't have made it too complex if they expect HD dealers to provide service.

It'll almost HAVE to be idiot proof! : D
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Dbird29
Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The "Not Dyna's"?
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Dbird29
Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

DYNA's crying so I have to stop now.
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Paochow
Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is it pushrod hydraulic, OHV? What are we looking at?

When the video was up it listed a 10,500RPM redline, so I'm guessing pushrods are out.}
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Spatten1
Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No more endless debates about the benefits and pitfalls of water cooled vs. air-cooled.

I've already seen plenty of posts by the "I'd never buy one of those inferior liquid cooled engines" crowd that are really excited now.
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Teeps
Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Answer to the question I never asked...
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Spatten1
Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 07:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Look at it this way. They can't have made it too complex if they expect HD dealers to provide service.

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Vanvideo
Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 12:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Monsoon board, in keeping with the bad weather theme.

Liquid metal board. Or would that be Mercury board? (faster, too, as in god of speed)
Or T-1000 board, you know the liquid metal terminator from Terminator 2.
OK, I'm stretching here.
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Ulywife
Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 12:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This sounds like the meeting when we were trying to come up with a name for our BRAG club, Carolina Corner Carvers!

Keep 'em coming! Didn't take too long before Blake gave the Uly's their own section.

(Message edited by Ulywife on July 08, 2007)
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Cgocifer
Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 12:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It means that none of us will be able to sell or trade our bikes in! The bottom just fell out of our XBs boys...
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07xb12scg
Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 01:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've already seen plenty of posts by the "I'd never buy one of those inferior liquid cooled engines" crowd that are really excited now.
I don't doubt that. If Buell has it it's good. If Buell doesn't have it it's bad. That's the attitude of some people on this site.

And as I said on another post, if this bike is as much as a Ducati, like I assume it will be, those who said a Ducati costs too much will quickly change their mind.

Oh and the same can be said for the belt faithfuls who did nothing but bash chains.

The hypocrisy of some people on this site just cracks me up. These people are about to make this site hilarious...

(Message edited by 07xb12scg on July 08, 2007)
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 01:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Me, me, me. Lookie me. I said, me, me me. Lookie me!"




I'll take an enthusiastic hypocrite over an egotistical jackass naysayer every day.

If you don't have something of value to add, consider the value of quite. : |
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 03:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think there were several folks here who were thinking in a very small box who realize now that the Elves have a lot more free reign than previously believed.

I believe there will be enough room for both air-cooled and water cooled within Buell. I think the debates were more about whether water cooled was necessary for Buell to survive not whether we would buy them if they were available.

As I rode today, I thought about the new bike. I also realized that I own a pretty damn good bike now.

That said, what does it matter if someone said they would never own a water cooled Buell?

Can't someone change their minds given that something never before imagined has been created?

The downside of archiving is that 100% of every post ever provided on this board by any member can be recalled and displayed. Do we really want the past post inquisition here on BadWeb?

Damn folks, today is one of the happiest days in Erik's and the BMC family's life! I would LOVE to see the ginormous smile on Erik's face tomorrow. I'm sure he couldn't be prouder than if it were one of his own kids!

Congrats Erik! Job well done!
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Blazinc5
Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 03:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How bout "arg another leak.
or "drowned rats" hee hee couldn't resist.. cause reguardless of what the new bike is,,, I can't afford to update from my 05 12R.
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Heads
Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 05:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

07xb12scg,have ya finished learning how to ride yet....god please hurry up and buy jap crap or something and go stink up there sites, im sick of seeing ya winge like a biatch all the time... mate you are hilarious.
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Spatten1
Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 07:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I believe there will be enough room for both air-cooled and water cooled within Buell.

Absolutely. If BMW and Ducati can do it successfully, Buell can too.
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Court
Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 07:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>the Elves have a lot more free reign than previously believed.

That is an excellent point. You may recall some of my comments when the TT was done about some of the younger engineers having the benefits of participating in the entire development process. They're bearing fruit.

I suspect that in the coming days that the excitement about Buells will be joined by excitement about HOW things are happening at Buell.

Truly a day for celebration.

Court
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Jaimec
Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We don't know for sure it'll have a chain! When I made a comment about not being able to make a belt wide enough to handle the horsepower of a water cooled engine, Anonymous chimed in with basically "Oh ye of little faith..."
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Buellshyter
Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No more endless debates about the benefits and pitfalls of water cooled vs. air-cooled.

Ahh! I will miss them.

Now we can have two Bad Webs, one that is for the air-cooled boys and one for the water cooled.


Like I said in another thread, I hope this new bike doesn't polarize the Buell community. We've all been so alike in our bikes for so long I would hate to see us fall into the trap of .." my bike is better then your bike" crap. I don't want to go to Buell's 25th Homecoming and see the 1125R riders huddled together.
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Vanvideo
Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 1125Rs will be huddled together...way in front of the rest of the Buells on the tracks and streets.
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Fenderbender
Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BadWaterBikers
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Dbird29
Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BadWaterBikers

That's a winner!
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07xb12scg
Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll take an enthusiastic hypocrite over an egotistical jackass naysayer every day.
How do you choose since you are both?

If you don't have something of value to add, consider the value of quite.
Your post added value? Maybe you should take your own advice! ;)
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Dave
Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Similar issue happened when the XB series was introduced. There was some polarization between the tubers and XB crowd ... we see how that turned out.

DAve
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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 08:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

YES!!! BELT DRIVE!!
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