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Stupid_hurts
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hello
i just registered on bad weather bikers and was wondering about brake in procedure.
Ijust bought a 03 Lightning and was wondering about break in procedures, the manual say keep it under 3 grand and 80 km for 8oo km. Any input?
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Barker
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sure we can help. but I need some clarification.

You bought a BRAND NEW NEW 2003 XB9S?
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Beachbuell
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ride it like you stole it!
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Barker
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have heard of guys abusing the bikes from the first mile. With minimal problems @ 30k miles +

I would stick to the factory's guidelines to be safe.


from a 05 owners manual

The First 500 Miles (800 Kilometers)

To properly wear-in critical parts during the first 500 miles (800 kilometers), please observe the simple riding rules below. This will assure future performance and durability.

During the first 50 miles (80 kilometers), keep the engine speed below 2500 RPM in all gears and do not exceed 50 mph (80 kph). Do not allow the engine to lug.

For the first 500 miles (800 kilometers), vary the engine speed and avoid riding at the same speed for long distances. Engine speeds up to 3000 RPM are permissible in any gear after 50 miles (80 kilometers) have accumulated. but Do not exceed 55 mph (89 kph) for the first 50-500 miles (80-800 kilometers).

Avoid fast starts at wide open throttle. Drive slowly until engine warms up.

Refer to Upshift (Acceleration) Gear Speeds: 2005 XB Models and Downshift (Deceleration) Gear Speeds: 2005 XB Models. Follow table guidelines for when to shift gears. Avoid running the engine at extremely low RPM in higher gears.

Avoid hard braking. New brakes need to be broken-in by moderate use for the first 200 miles (300 kilometers).
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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd suggest following the 07 break-in procedures, which allow you to ride it a little harder, and which appears to contribute to better ring sealing and lower oil consumption. One of the most important things is letting the engine warm up a few minutes before riding it, and then let it warm up thoroughly before riding it hard.

Here's a scan from my 07 Ulysses manual:

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Doerman
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Welcome to the mayhem here and congrats on a very fine choice of bike!

The break in procedure is as follows IIRC from the manual:
first 150 miles: stay under 3500 rpm
150 - to 500 miles: Stay under 5000rpm

The most important part of breaking in a bike is to vary rpm, shift a lot, and shut off the engine and start it again after a brief cool down.

The manual is very conservative on the break in procedure. The worst thing you could do is to ride it on the QE1 at constant speed until the required miles are reached.
Asbjorn
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Midknyte
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Remember, that break in period applies as much to you as well.
You should approach any different bike as a new experience,
lest your muscle memory of your last bike get the best of you.
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Tpoppa
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I followed the Manual EXACTLY. After 19,000 miles, my 03 XB9s runs excellent, makes great power, and never burns any oil.
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Monday, May 14, 2007 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Congratulations on your new 2003 XB9S. I had one myself for 13,000 miles, and I put together a few notes on the subject.

As I can never find it in the Bad Web Archives, I will post it once again for your use.

I beg the indulgence of those old timers who may have seen this post once or twice before, as well as those who might note that it is not as current as when I wrote it a couple of years ago.

I have over 13,000 miles on my XB9S, “Ole Yaller,” so I thought I would share my thoughts with those who have just purchased one, or are about to buy one, so that they can enjoy their unit to the max, and perhaps avoid a few pitfalls that I have already encountered. These motorcycles will be seen as true classics as time goes by, and they probably provide the most fun for the dollar of any bike on the road today.

1. The dealer situation.
The Buell dealership situation is in flux. At first most Harley Davidson dealers carried Buell. Many of them were not too enthusiastic about the brand, so Harley is reducing the number of dealers, to increase the importance of Buell at the dealers that actually carry them, and provide better support to Buell customers. The other dealers can no longer repair or sell Buells, and many of these have sold off their ‘03 Buell stock at low prices. The result: there are some excellent Buell dealers out there, but relatively few of them, very few. That’s the bad news. The good news is that the new XB line of Buells are well made, reliable, need little service, and parts are very readily available. Virtually all required service can be done by a motivated owner with an ordinary set of tools, bike stands and the shop manual.
The ideal situation: buy your ‘03 leftover from a Buell Dealer who actively supports the brand if you can find one.

2. Bad Web
If you have got this far, you probably realize the one of the best resources for the Buell owner is the Bad Weather Biker web site itself. The knowledge Vault has excellent discussions of every aspect of the Buell motorcycle. The Brag Organization is a great owners group that sponsors fun events around the country for Buell owners, and there is the Buell Customer Support line which is improving all the time. The number is 414-343-4056. Expect the best.

The questions most asked by new owners are:

A. The first thing to do.
I always recommend buying the shop manual and parts list if you plan on working on the bike yourself. This is a bike that lends itself much more than Japanese or Italian sport bikes to home repairs, due to its inherent simplicity, and design.
Parts are normally readily available, and not too expensive either. One of our member sponsors, Daves, ( Dave Stueve at Appleton HD), regularly monitors this board. He is very Buell knowledgeable, very helpful, and a great source for original and after market parts. Trojan Horse, ( Matt) and American Sport Bikes, (Al Leighton), both also sponsors, are great with after market parts too, many imported from Europe where Buells sell better than in the USA.

1. The belt.
If you bought the bike new, it probably has the original belt. These often had a relatively short life, and have been replaced by an upgraded model that seems to be much better.
If the bike has more than 3000 miles on it, it may already have the new belt. The '03 belt is now in it's third version, part number # G0500.02ABR. The belt parts number is permanently marked on the outside of the belt. If you don't have one of these, you might want to fit one the next time you change tires, cost about $136 from Daves. Lots of hard riders, such as Glitch, one of our leaders, has tons of miles on his, no problems. With the latest '03 belt, the conversion to the '04 belt doesn't seem to be as necessary, but many brothers have done it for peace of mind.The conversion requires new sprockets, belt guards, belt, and a few other parts. Daves or Al can give you an estimate of what it would all cost. Another option is a chain conversion, which has been much discussed on this site: see the knowledge vault.

B. When you do change tires.
Take a look at Dunlop Qualifiers, Michelin Pilot Powers, Pirelli Diablo, or Metzler M-3's: many members report better steering and longer life with these than the original equipment Dunlop 207’s. I am now replacing my first Michelin Pilot Power rear tire, and I was very happy. I got 4200 miles out of the rear, including one track day, and they still work great, just running out of tread in the middle. ( I subsequently converted to Dunlop Qualifiers for better handling). Several brothers have learned the hard way to always replace tires in pairs: the front may look ok, long after the rear is obviously worn out, but its profile will have changed, compromising handling.

3. Steering bearings:
The steering bearings on the Buell tend to require tightening from time to time. The symptom is a clunk when you put on the brakes, that is often mistaken for a problem with the brakes. Takes about ten minutes to adjust as per the shop manual. The top triple tree is a bit delicate on these bikes, and have been broken more than once by over-tightening: the pinch bolt only needs about 18 ft/lb. Now a days a torque wrench is pretty much a standard item in the home garage. The front forks must be off the ground to do this properly. A rear wheel stand, and a scissors jack under the muffler jacking points is a simple way to do this.

4. Wheel bearings.
Long story short: if the seals are orange, you are good to go, if they are black, they should be replaced by any Buell dealer at no charge to you.

5. The lubricants.
The oils that seems to be preferred by many of the members are : Mobil 1 15w 50 in the motor, Mobil 1 75w90 gear oil in the gear box. These are available at Walmart very inexpensively, especially in the 5 qt. jugs and the Walmart Super Tech ST4967 oil filter was exactly the same as the factory part, (manufactured by Champion), last time I bought some for two bucks apiece. I change every 4000 miles, probably a bit excessive, but it can't hurt, and doesn't take very long to do. Factory recommends 5000 miles between changes. Certainly every year if your mileage is less than 5K. You can’t go wrong if you simply change the oil and filter every time you replace your tires. NOTE: There seems to be some anectdotal evidence that Mobil One Gear oil may cause premature failure of the stator insulation. I now use Formula+ from Harley.

6. Suspension settings.
Because of its somewhat radical frame geometry, the suspension settings on a Buell DO count! You can assume that they are not set just right for you, so go to the owners manual, ( shop manual not required for this one:-), and follow the directions. Shawn Higbee has some settings for aggressive riders which work great too, and I use them. See Knowledge Vault.

7. Dipstick.
The dipstick is located on the top of the left side of the swing arm: no kidding:-). Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to read. I put some yellow shrink wrap on mine to aid visibility. Using a little wooden coffee stirrer and comparing it to the dipstick markings works even better.


8. Frame Pucks:
The Buell OEM frame pucks will keep you from denting your frame if you accidentally drop the model. They can be painted to match the plastic or the frame. These are really a must have item, because it is not to heard to dent the frame if you drop the bike, and it is very difficult to repair, and expensive to replace.

That should get you up and running for a while, while you plan how you want to personalize your mount: it IS legal to run a bone stock Buell, it's just that no one has ever tried it:-).

First 1000 mile service.
I take a preventive maintenance point of view to this service, which takes place shortly after the bike is broken in, and the new owner has pretty much got the hang of things. So in addition to the factory recommendations, which are basically change the oil and filter, check and normally adjust the primary chain, and reset the Throttle position sensor, I recommend the following be done at this time.
a. Fit the factory “race kit”. In spite of its name, this is more of a “make it a bit more fun to ride on the street “ kit. Improves mid range, makes it sound like a motorcycle instead of a lawn mower. Easy to fit, works fine. Requires a TPS reset, and removing the belt tensioner, so this is as good a time as any to do it. There are several other aftermarket mufflers, D+D, Drummer and Jardine to name just a few, that are louder and have found favor with many of the Bad Webbers.
b. Replace the belt. Why worry about the belt breaking when a new better one only cost $140, and you already have the tensioner off.
c. While you are replacing the belt, you have done most of the work to remove the rear wheel, you might as well replace the original Dunlop 207s, which only have about 1000 mi left on them, with some better tires like those mentioned above which will greatly improve the handling, and last twice as long.
d. check the steering bearings. The have probably started to loosen a bit, even if you haven’t noticed it.

After doing this additional work you will have a bike that:
1. Sounds cooler
2. Runs faster
3. Steers much better
4. No belt worries
5. Mostly likely will not need anything but gas for 4000 miles:-).

Just my .02¢
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Stupid_hurts
Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Every thing i was looking for and more!
I have to say this is the best forum for any bike i've owned.
Thanks guy's
Rubber-side down!
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07xb12scg
Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow. That's a nice FAQ jon.
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Njsxb9
Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Read this article. I built several motors and have used this method and it works very well. LIttle controversial but hey.

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
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Indy_bueller
Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just the FAQ Jon, just the FAQ.

sorry couldn't help myself
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Ridrx
Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Njsxb9,
That is the correct way to break in an engine as far as I'm concerned.

I broke my Buell in by the procedure in the manual ONLY to maintain the warranty.

That said, EVERY engine I've ever built was broken in with the "load the rings" method...and when I rebuild the 12R it will be broken in that way as well.
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M_singer
Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gear oil may cause damage to the yellow metals of the stator. A better choice for the primary/trans would be formula +
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Vikingdave
Posted on Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree with Njsxb9, it works and it makes sense. Ride it like you stole it, and put it away wet!
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12r
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My local Buell shop has some XBs in their demo fleet. Whenever my bike is in the shop for some work, I use one of their demo bikes.

I've tried three XB12s and they've all had a hard time from day 1. They sound awful, there's oil mist and they vibrate like a road drill, but they go like sh*t off a shovel and have a stellar top-end (if you can put up with the vibes).

My own Firebolt, carefully run-in, is almost silent in operation and creamy smooth, but it lacks the absolute top-end of the demo bikes.
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Seattlexb
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just rode mine around downtown seattle. With all the hills and stoplights, etc. it seemed like a good environment to do the break in.

By the way, it takes a long time to get 500 miles when all you do is ride around town.
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Corporatemonkey
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2007 - 04:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just rode mine around downtown seattle.


There is another xb downtown??? I have only ever seen one cityx (blue) with road rash, and another xbr in red (well worn)

I thought I was one of the only ones?
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