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Daveinm
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't know what happened. I gave it some gas as I got on the highway, then all of a sudden it just died. Felt like the belt had snapped, but it didn't. I coasted over to the shoulder and tried to start the bike up, but no luck. Had power, so I don't think it was the battery. Just put it new spark plugs and wires a few days ago, so I don't think it was that either. When I press the on switch, the primer doesn't sound. When I press the ignition switch, nothing. My brother grabbed a trailer and picked me and the bike up. Dropped it off at Harley on the way home. They said they can't look at it until Friday morning. Anyone have any ideas what it might be, or have any other questions to try and diagnose?
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Daman
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a similar problem. When I turned the kill/on switch, I didnt hear the fuel pump energize. It turned out to be my relays.
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Daveinm
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was thinking that's what it might have been, or a fuse of some sort. Too bad my dumba$$ didn't think of that until after I dropped it off at Harley. Maybe I'll go there and check that tomorrow.
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Rsh
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When my XB died like that it was the speed sensor, which also blew out the ignition fuse. I unplugged the speed sensor and replaced the fuse so it would run, then rode it to the dealer to buy a new sensor, all was good for a couple of weeks then the stator went south, replaced that and have had no problems for the last 2000 miles, I just turned over 30,000 miles so thats not to bad. Hope to go another 30,000 without any trouble. Good luck with yours.
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Daman
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 01:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How did you figure out that the speed sensor blew out the ignition fuse?
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Poondogger
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 02:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

read the recent post "Help stranded at work" I just had a similar problem with the bike and the dealer. go fix it yourself.
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Daveinm
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It sounds related to your issues Poondoger. My headlight was still turning on though.

I'm guessing it's fuse or relay related.
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Fl_billy
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Dave, definitely check the relays. I just had a very similar situation with mine. If you can, pull the relays out and switch them around. If it's a relay, you'll be able to figure out which one real quick by doing that. I would check all your fuses too. Seems to be quite a few electical problems going around lately.......
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Dagwood
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check this thread:

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/154614.html?1131142193
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Jerseyguy
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Just put it new spark plugs and wires a few days ago"

I cut & pasted this from a previous post of mine.

"I have debugged, fixed and got running literally thousands of industrial machines over the last 35 years as an engineer. My guys call this "Haynes Law": "If a machine was working and now its not, the last thing you did to it before it stopped working (no mater how unrelated to the problem it seems), is what's wrong". It seems trivial, but it's true damned near every time."

Ask yourself - What wire, part or other "thing" might I have bumped or touched or bent while doing what I last did that could cause a short or loosen some sensor etc. to cause this?

Be methodical and don't rule anything out.
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Poondogger
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You know changing plugs might be the culprit here as I did that same thing about 3 days before my problems began.
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Daveinm
Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got my bike back Tuesday. Took almost a week, but they found the problem. It was a blown fuse, but they didn't say which one.

And what does it cost to get a fuse changed by a dealer???

$135!!!

That's the last time I bring my bike to a dealer!
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Buell_892
Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Peanut_man
Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Daveinm,

Yeah, too bad they charged so much. Maybe you should find out exactly which fuse was blown in case it happened again you won't have to shell out another $135.

I'm guessing that most of the $135 cost went into testing and inspecting the bike and not just replacing the fuse. Unfortunately if next time unknown problem occurs again, it would still be a trip to the dealer unless you are mechanically inclined... and sometime lucky.
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Fullpower
Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

from KV, repeat as necessary:
"at 15,600 miles my XB12s burned out the main fuse, so of course i was completely tweaked, its just one damn thing after another , these electrical problems yadayadayada, going to trade this worthless piece of crap in and get a yamaha, the damn dealer would probably take 7 weeks to look at it, then claim to have "replaced the entire harness" and the fuse is GOING to blow again, can never trust the bike again........... but wait> i have a spare 30 amp fuse, install fuse ride home. open service manual, consult wiring diagram. hmmm, very few wires that are run exclusive to 30 amp main. take a peak under fuse block (no tools required to inspect here), look around behind flyscreen, all ok here... last place to look: voltage regulator (hot) lead rubbed through loom at front of crankcase, arcing and grounded out to engine case. the easy fix: E-tape, and some plastic loom. in my case i jsut installed the SPARE voltage regulator that i had in my XB spare parts stash. guess i will keep the bike, since it is so darned easy to work on. but the cost of fuses could really add up. lets see that is a 29 cent fuse for each 15,600 miles.
.29/15,600 = that is 0.0000186 dollars per mile
and that is just the fuse, not counting the electrical tape.
anyway, probably worth checking this on your bikes, voltage regulator leads at front of engine case, " if it's touching, then it IS rubbing" enjoy the ride, dean
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Daveinm
Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, I never take my bike to the dealer. I don't trust them. Not all dealers, just my local dealers. That was only the second time I had ever brought it in. I usually do all the work myself. Unfortunately, it wasn't until after I had dropped the bike off (thinking it was a major electrical problem and let the warranty do it's job) that I thought it could be a fuse or a relay. Confirmed my thoughts on badweb. I was tempted to pick it up, but against my better judgement I decided to leave it.

Like I said, that's the last time it goes to the dealer.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fullpower,

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Daveinm
Posted on Friday, November 18, 2005 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like that post got a little messed up. Don't know what that's about. Blake???????
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