| Author | Message | ||
     Diablo1 |
Moto Sandel, that has to be the most retarded thing I have ever seen. I wonder if a jap came up with that idea? Most retarded? Not even close. You're forgetting about doo-rags and buttless chaps.} | ||
| Pariah |
Jsimpkins is just trying to annoy me by using two pejoratives in the same post, namely, "retard" and "Jap". Obviously, he cares for neither hot Japanese nor Down's chicks. You win, Jason, I'm annoyed! But here's one back at ya...  (Message edited by Pariah on August 24, 2008) | ||
| Jaimec |
The motor sandals were posted once before (by me). They've got NOTHING to do with Japan, they're used in Pakistan and India (where the motorcyclists often wear even less than those things on their feet). | ||
| Vincent |
+1 Brent1125russ. I am not going to gear up to go two miles to school just to carry it around all day in 100+ heat, call me what u want. Squids ,in my mind, are the guys who ride beyond there limits, gear or not they still crash because they cant ride. | ||
| Pariah |
Vincent has a point... while proper riding gear does help, we are, regardless, extremely vulnerable as riders. The best protection is what's going on between your ears... squids are the people who are just plum stupid... like me, getting the 1125R as a first bike!  (I'm officially a Texan now, having used the word "plum" in a sentence to refer to something other than fruit or color) (Message edited by Pariah on August 24, 2008) | ||
| Spectrum |
Takis Your not a true Texan till you can condense whole sentences into one word. For example "Jeatyet". Translation "Did you eat yet". Just for the record, so my fellow Texans don't get up in arms. I was born and raised in Lubbock. | ||
| Pariah |
Dadgumit, Bryan, aren't y'all fixin' to come back to Texas right quick?! I guess I have a long way to go... (Message edited by Pariah on August 24, 2008) | ||
| Steeleagle |
I'm not sure why one would think that because the trip is shorter the probability of having an incident is less. When you go out in traffic, all the things that create risk can reasonably be expected to be there: Traffic, ruts, gravel, water... REGARDLESS of the trip length. So you take steps to protect yourself from incidents that might occur from an incident with these KNOWN risks. I agree that the use of gray matter is the best defense against having an incident, but YOUR action/reaction is not always going to be enough. I doubt those that think they are invincible on short trips will be swayed by a contradictory opinion, but I'll be the guy sweating with all my protective gear on, along with all my skin! (Message edited by steeleagle on August 25, 2008) | ||
| Jaimec |
Any body familiar with traffic statistics will tell you that the large majority of accidents occur within one mile from home. Probably because everyone has the attitude that nothing will happen so close to home, they let down their guard. Proof of this is in the postings above. | ||
| Boltrider |
What about police motorcyclists? Out here in Cali, they routinely ride in shirt sleeves when it's hot outside. I don't think that makes them squids. (Message edited by boltrider on August 25, 2008) | ||
| Thereconscout |
I have never seen One in short sleeves here in Cali? ^ Let's see if our Friend Hwyranger can comment <-- your a motorcycle Officer | ||
| Brent1125russ |
When I was driving tow truck in college, I saw 10 accidents out of the near 50 I was called out to where people were either killed because they were wearing seat-belts or lived because they weren't wearing them. One was young family of 4 burned alive in their Isuzu Trooper when a drunk headed into them and they couldn't get their seat-belts off after the rig exploded on fire, their hands were charred wrapped around their seat-belt buckles. Another guy lived when he fell down on the floor boards of his truck because he didn't have a seat belt on and the cab of the truck was decapitated, right where his head WOULD have been had he been wearing a seat-belt. Think about THAT the next time you buckle up. I'd share the other 8 but I really don't care to relive those moments of my life right now. So we all take a risk when we buckle up, when we don't, when we ride full gear, when we don't; but the biggest part of not getting in an accident is just what Jaimec said...don't let your guard down. Ride as if every other person on the road is trying to run you over all the time. This is how I ride and drive, all the time. This is the opposite of how a squid rides. In all the accidents I responded to, lapse of attention created the root of the accident, if that didn't cause the accident it was the poor correction after the lapse that caught up to the driver/rider. We all take a risk when we swing a leg over, and I have nothing against somebody who decides to ride full gear all the time, or wear a seat-belt all the time; but just remember a seat-belt won't prevent you from being decapitated and full gear won't help when you get ran over by an 18 wheeler hauling logs. Nobody is invincible, short trips or long, but I'll personally take the odds riding in squid gear when I'm not going any faster than what I ride my bicycle at, especially when it's too hot to even ride my bicycle. This is just my perspective though, and I admit I have a severely jacked up perception of death and injury in motor vehicle accidents. | ||
| D_adams |
I know this is way off topic, but you guys/gals should watch the movie "Final Destination" 1-3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD_MAz96L70 I only mention it because of the decapitation and logging truck comment. | ||
| Hwyranger |
I think I should clarify/qualify my other post on this issue....what a squid wears is USUALLY less than desirable protection-wise. It is more the attitude that makes one a squid (stuntahs and morons who ride way beyond their capability or the generally accepted safe practices out on public roads. Bottom line, a squid is someone with whom I refuse to ride because they annoy the heck out of me (even if I wasn't "Johnny Law".  | ||
| Hwyranger |
as for what motor officers wear...we would fall under the classification of squid if the definition was limited to a person who rides without proper gear.... the uniform shirts are no different from car cops (short or long sleeves) The motor breeches are just a different cut so they fit inside the motor boots (a little thicker around the knee/thigh and seat, but in reality no better than a thick pair of jeans). Leather gloves, those jack-boots and open faced helmets are pretty much the only extra protection we get in our uniform compared to car cops.... I prefer to go long sleeves because it is actually cooler than short sleeves (carrying my own shade so my skin doesn't get baked). besides the fact skin cancer runs in my family...I have SPF 70 on all exposed skin while on duty. | ||
| Spectrum |
If you don't want to wear it, you can make all kinds of excuses for not wearing proper saftey gear. Fact of the matter is it's about risk reduction and statistically your safer with it than without. Not wear it doesn't make you a squid. But then again how many squids have you seen wearing it? | ||
| Jsimpkins |
"for neither hot Japanese nor Down's chicks." Your right, I did do it to annoy you, because what I really dislike is when somebody uses a public forum to try and force their moral views. And FYI, my grand father and his brothers fought the "Japanese" to give you the freedom to express your views; however stupid they may be. If you want try and push your view of political correctness on somebody do it in a PM. I also don't give rats one way of the other about the Japanese, other than the fact I like sushi. If you want to continue this conversation then have the balls to PM me. j- | ||
| Pariah |
Hey Jason, You have a PM. Takis | ||
| Spectrum |
Seems to me if you use derogatory labels in a public forum you just might have some public response. | ||
| Jaimec |
Indeed. If you act like a jackass in public, don't be so surprised if people assume you ARE one... | ||
| Xl1200r |
Ride as if everyone else on the road is out to get you? Doesn't sound like a bit of fun to me. If that's how you want to look at it, then you're better off just staying home. I always wear a helmet and gloves, almost always (98%) wear a jacket, and leather pants about half the time (always at least jeans - no shorts). I understand the risks of my decisions, and nobody here is smarter or a better rider or what have you because they choose to gear up 100% for every ride. Statistically, you'll live longer if you don't deal with the stress of a work environment. Is that going to stop you from working for a paycheck? Of course not - you do it anyways because you want to LIVE. That's why I ride a bike. To LIVE. When it's 90 degrees outside and I just spent 10 minutes kicking and kicking to get an old sportster started and sweating my balls off, gearing up with jacket, pants, helmet, gloves and boots and riding like everyone out there wants to kill me is not my idea of fun. I put on my helmet, some summer gloves and the boots I already have on and go for a rip. Once a year, I get to ride with an older couple, and the woman always says "Safety Second"... her reason being that FUN should come first, because if you aren't having fun, then what's the point of even riding. If gearing up 100% for a 2 mile ride takes the fin out of it, then don't gear up. Do whatever makes you SMILE. You get one shot at life By the way, a squid is defined by how they ride and with what level of expertise. What they wear doesn't matter. | ||
| Garrett2 |
cops on dressers and other baggers and the harley guys (and other baggers etc) are riding bikes that are designed to protect a rider in some accidents i dont wear a jacket when i ride my dads ultra cause there is a little protection around you vs my 1125 where its wearing me haha just my view on cops and many harley/bagger guys | ||
| Krassh |
Ride as if everyone else on the road is out to get you? Doesn't sound like a bit of fun to me. If that's how you want to look at it, then you're better off just staying home. I don't know depends on how you look at it. I ride that way and it means to me, " I assume that persons getting ready to make a left out of the 7-11 does not see me or could care less". So I do a couple of things. I slow down and start moving to the left of my lane. Same with interstate cage flyers deciding they need my lane more than I do. I will either try and keep ahead of most traffic or slow down if I have a feeling someone is going to make a lane change without looking.} | ||
| Hwyranger |
I don't know depends on how you look at it. I ride that way and it means to me, " I assume that persons getting ready to make a left out of the 7-11 does not see me or could care less". So I do a couple of things. I slow down and start moving to the left of my lane. Same with interstate cage flyers deciding they need my lane more than I do. I will either try and keep ahead of most traffic or slow down if I have a feeling someone is going to make a lane change without looking. }Couldn't have put it better myself.  That is the attitude of a NON-squid | ||
| Socoken |
I always thought squid was short for "squirrely kid," in reference to the average teenage kid that buys a rocket to ride wrecklessly. Somehow, I knew the ATGATT police would step in. Never fails. Same ol, same ol " I spent thousands of dollars to suit up like TRON to ride to bike night once a week, so Im going to make you feel stupid for not doing the same" lectures. At least no one has brought up the "your not wearing full race gear drives up my insurance rates" stupidity,....... yet. As far as riding as if everyone is out to kill you, I agree whole heartedly. However, I like to look at is as "riding as if I am invisible." That way, its more like a fun game. | ||
| Xl1200r |
Krassh - to me, that's just riding defensivly, which I do on the bike or in the car. Thinking, "That guy doesn't see me and might pull out in front of me", is a lot different than, "That guy sees me but he wants to see my head splattered on the ground." So, by your definition, I would agree. | ||
| Hwyranger |
ATGATT ???what is that? | ||
| Fresnobuell |
all the gear all the time | ||
| Hwyranger |
thanks Fresno. I was stumped  | ||
| Brent1125russ |
That's all I was saying, instead of seeing a car and thinking, "They must see me." I ride with the mentality, "Yeah, they see me and they are waiting until the last second to pull out in front of me." and I ride accordingly, slow down, look for escape routes, cover the brakes, etc... I've had 4 close calls on my bike, all cars merging/pulling out on me, each time I executed the plan I put together before they pulled a cager and thank God escaped without harm. |
