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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There's NO frickin way in HADES that ANYONE can POSSIBLY find a better way to remove mold release than I did. I don't CARE if you use a POWER washer! You STILL won't find anything better. I'm THE best... HA!

ANY tire... ANY day!



Oh, yeah, I almost forgot... I used Dawn dish washing soap and made sure to rinse well. It seems to have removed the mold release as the tire is rubbery as opposed to oily. I put some soap on my hand and vigorously rubbed it until it started to make some good suds, then I washed it all off. I did this twice and I think it's all good. I know I feel better. ; )
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

But alas poor Don, you forgot that the rubber is porous enugh to have absorbed some of the mold release which will rise to the surface of the tire as it heats up, that is why part of the break in is based on heat cycles...
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Dasbuell
Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use the same method as M1, but at the advise of Madge... I use Ivory. I soak in it first to make my hands soft... then I use a pot scrubber to get in the recesses. It leaves my tires lemony fresh. Then to manage what has been absorbed into porous surface, I wipe it down with paint thinner until it is saturated... then I light the paint thinner. This forces a heat cycle... unfortunately the lemony fresh smell goes away. I then toss a blanket over it to extinguish the flames, then I toss it in my pool to force a cool down. After that I wipe it down with Armorall to give it a nice sheen... then I mount it and give it a second coat of Armorall. This eliminates any mold release... and takes away that green moldy color. I then immediately take it to the twisties to scrub it from side wall to side wall.

Then after recovering the bike from the tow lot and getting the insurance settlement... I ride my electric wheel chair to look at the 05 models.

(formerly dasxb9s - still nucking futs)
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Dasbuell
Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 12:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry...

I forgot the confrontational part...

YOU ARE UGLY... AND YOUR MOMMA DRESSES YOU FUNNY!

(formerly dasxb9s - still have a split level head)
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BadS1
Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And she's got a wooden leg with a kick stand on it.Just kidd'n.
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M1combat
Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 01:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOL@Das : ).

I figured that Wycked, but the rubber seems rubbery and I'm sure that it won't be as slick as it would have been had I not washed it. I just hope it works... I don't want to get a squid badge like Jersey did, but I'll certainly be careful.
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M1combat
Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 01:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dana - You can't apologize after a world class slam like that... It takes all the kick out of it : ).
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Darthane
Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 07:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

M1 - I've done the same thing on all the new tires on both my bikes and never had them get slippery on my. Doubt it gets rid of all of it, but at least that outer coat.
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Mikej
Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 08:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, for me, I tried something from the olden days. Rode to work yesterday and still had some uncertainty with the new rear tire. So on the way home, a few blocks from home, I pulled into a dirt/gravel parking lot while the tire was still warm. I then pulled up next to a fence and grabbed the front brake and let the back tire dig a trench or two until it fully embeded up to the sidewalls. Good and scrubbed in now. I'll get it out later today for a test run to see how well it's scrubbed.
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Spiderman
Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

brake cleaner works better : p
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just scrub the damm thing in and be careful for the first 100miles.
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Outrider
Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I thought Madge used Palmolive...
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Jerseyguy
Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

After my low side on Tuesday I scrubbed the M1s down with Acetone. It removed the shine & greasy feel, at least from the surface. I still don't have anywhere near the confidence to lay it over like I used to. I looked at the tires last night and I've got a 3/4 inch "wussy" band on the edges that looks more or less virgin. There was no band on my old tires. This is really pissing me off at this point. I'm not sure how to know when I can trust these new tires.
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Country
Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I bet you can trust them after the first or second heat cycle. All of the mold release should have been "heated" off with those, regardless if you actually use that section of the tire. Just my .02
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Mikej
Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Define "heat cycle". Will a 5 mile jaunt to the grocery store at 35mph do it? Will a 22 mile romp down the freeway at 65mph do it? What if the ambient air temp is below 60°F at the time of the heat cycling? What if the relative humidity is also above 60% at the time of the heat cycling?
There is no way to know if two heat cyclings will do the trick.
YMMV.
I dug a trench.
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Outrider
Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I dug a trench.

Well, at least it is in a good fighting position. LOL
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Mikej
Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yep, and if my kickstand ever breaks I now know what I'll do - instant bike stand.
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2k4xb12
Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dasbuell has a good method -- Dawn liquid. But, there's a side benefit to this method. Just as Dawn softens your hands as they soak in it, I know a friend of the brother in law of a guy that I met in a bar who soaks his tires in Dawn. This softens them and makes them perform the same as racing rubber. Just make sure you don't drink it, because my friend's sister's cousin's stepfather says this makes your stool softer too.
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Midknyte
Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Who doesn't like a soft barstool?
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Bluelightning
Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As long as it only makes my stool softer and not anything else, I can deal with it. lol
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Dasbuell
Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Outrider...

WOW... that explains the problem... that broom rider set me up!!! I shoulda used Palmolive... and it woulda worked!!!

But it was Jesse James who gave me the tip about the paint thinner... that did start a heat cycle!!!

Racing rubber... are those 50 cents too in those machines in the men's rooms at the fancy nascar theme speed shops??? Nope... not for me... don't want to go faster there... and certainly don't want to fall off!!!

(formerly dasxb9s - still with only one oar in the water)
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Outrider
Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Das...was your racing rubber prelubed too?
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Dasbuell
Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2004 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No... but Armorall... like WD40, is good for a plethora of needs!

It is all about redneck engineering.

For example... before there was Viagra... we had to use popsicle sticks and duct tape!

(formerly dasxb9s - still thinking outside the box, way the hell outside the box!)
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Crusty
Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2004 - 06:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you're using popsicle sticks and duct tape, you'll be outside the box, allright.
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Outrider
Posted on Saturday, August 28, 2004 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That sounds innocent enough. I used to use Niagra Spray Starch and a bowling ball. LOL
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Newblaster
Posted on Monday, August 30, 2004 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What's the bowling ball for? No, wait, I don't think I want to know...
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Ray_maines
Posted on Monday, August 30, 2004 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok, Ok, you guys. That's enough..................

I installed a new rear tire and rode about 150 miles on one long ride before I got myself in way over my head and somehow managed to scrap a left side footpeg. On my current bike that's a BB-II-GG deal!

That leads me to believe that heat is THE answer.

I don't know nothin' 'bout nothin' concerning tires or rubbers, but I swear to God, from personal experience, that heat causes the slipery stuff to go away. Sometimes that's a good thing, sometimes that's a bad thing, but it's a real thing.

As always, YAMMV

RaY2K
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