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Kenb
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My father in law just bought himself a brand new Electra Glide but it's been over 30 years since he's ridden, I want to suggest to him a course but I'm clueless to what is out there in the NJ/NY/PA/CT area ? Any suggestions ? He's tickled to be retired and riding again but nervous.
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

His state SHOULD sponsor an MSF course, or there's always HD dealers and their Rider's Edge program, which I believe is also an MSF course.

Try here...

http://www.msf-usa.org/
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Court
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 06:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

NJ has some GREAT courses. The one I take is off the Garden State Parkway near Holmdel about Exit 109.

HINT: Even if you have ridden before AND even if you think you are pretty capable, go, sit, shut up, listen and learn. I learned, from the high consequence hobby of aviating, to spend a period each year culling the mistakes and shortcuts, I'd allowed to slip into my aura of perceived invincibility.

Okay. . . I did do one little stunt on the TW200 moments prior to graduation.

: )
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.beginnerbikes.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl
This resource has a lot of individual state resources as well - or just ask which one's closest in the General Forum.
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Chainsaw
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The MSF course was THE BEST MONEY I EVER SPENT on anything motorcycle related.

Berate him tirelessly till he takes a course.
It will SAVE HIS ASS.

in my humble opinion : )
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Shotgun
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What Chainsaw said!
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Friday, April 16, 2004 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I teach the equivalent one up here and every year we have to go through the whole thing in great detail to be re-certified.

Well worth the money
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Tripper
Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nine of the KCMob, aka the KC Central BRAG Club, went through the MSF Experience Rides Course today. I am whipped. It was tough and was extrememly good at improving the coordination of all your senses in controlling the bike. The most difficult and frustrating exercise was trying to do modified figure-8's in a box 20 feet wide. Out of dozens of attempts I think I saw 2 successfull attempts by the Buells. DAS, on his GS1150R was doing it with ease. The instructor was having a real belly laugh at how his drill was humbling a bunch of snot nosed Buellers... so I got off my bike and pointed to it, he jumped at the chance and got right on. A few dabs later and he gave up. He said give it to the other instructor, he can do it. (Motor-Cop, gazillion mile rider, great trainer) A little practice time getting used to the bike, and into the box he goes. He came close, but didn't get a clean run either. The limited turn lock of the fork was just too limiting. A trials rider style would probably help, but none of us were up to it.

We all felt better about ourselves, and had a great laugh with our instructors. The lack of ego's by all was refreshing.
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Court
Posted on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 04:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>We all felt better about ourselves, and had a great laugh with our instructors. The lack of ego's by all was refreshing.

Too cool!

When instructor and student set aside egos, the learning experience is accelerated.

The part that impresses me is how quickly you learned that it was no COMPLETING the exercise but PRACTICING it. It's essential, on the mean streets, that you have a keen and intuitive sense of what your Buell will and will NOT do.

My bet is that you feel like you know your bike much better now.

Thanks for the report,
Court
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