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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Excellent! Anonymity in the hands of the weak minded, cowardly, and hateful is coming to an end.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and _americas/article6801213.ece
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Reminds me of Jay and Silent Bob going around and kicking the asses of little teenage boys for insulting them on the internet.

Congratulations, way to sink to their level.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So does this mean we get to know who Anony is if we threaten to sue?
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Limitedx1
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

she is a @#$% $%^~#$ for doing that, oh wait i may be sued
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm wondering if Eslick is hiring a laywer.
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P_squared
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I actually kind of dig it. Can't wait to see the impact & implications to the "Keyboard Warriors" who's vitriol will now have to be tempered, as it would be in normal conversation.
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Spike
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wait, she's suing them for calling her names on the internet??

Who's the real coward here?
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Limitedx1
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

^^^^ that was my first though. that is why its a blog! just like tv, if ya dont want to see it, turn it off-because some of us enjoy when keyboard warriors point out the facts!
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Buellerandy
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd like to see the day where if such a case is pushed for defamation or whatnot, that you got to meet these "cyber tough guys" in person. For alot of them, I'm sure it'd be a humbling moment...was that transparency running down your pants?
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P_squared
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My $0.02...

If you're "man enough" to call someone names on the internet, then you should be "man enough" to do it in public, face to face.

Hiding behind a keyboard without fear of reprisal is being a coward, plain & simple.

So, if you can't say something degrading in public for fear of getting slapped w/ defamation suits, why should you be given a "shield of anonymity" because you can peck out the same words on a keyboard?
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Kyrocket
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Skank? She's suing over skank?
I wonder what this will do to the topix website I hear so much about. I understand locally anyway it's nothing but trash talking and name calling.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Some of you are missing the point. The point is that no longer is it an impenetrable refuge to post via pseudonyms on the internet. If you aren't willing to reveal your identity yet you are willing to go out of your way to wage unprovoked, hateful personal attack, then you are a coward and need to be revealed for it.

No "Anonymous" poster here has ever waged that kind of attack. Plenty of posters disguising themselves via pseudonyms have.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The article stated that this may open up a whole new can of worms reguarding anonimity. If a company like HD wanted to find out who posted what on a message board...could they? If this keeps moving forward, I'd say yes.

It's going to leave "attack" pretty open to interpretation.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"No "Anonymous" poster here has ever waged that kind of attack."

Didn't one get into a name calling deal here not too far back? I thought it was over a RSS thread.
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Spatten1
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Skank? She's suing over skank?

Looked like the case was probably based on a fact based misinformation- her age, which was apparently not correct.

You can call names, but you can't make up facts, that is liable in any medium.
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Damnut
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What is amazing is that woman is actually a model.
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Spatten1
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I totally remember the name calling incident. People were speculating whether it was Erik Buell or not.
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Midknyte
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"...The model was looking forward last night to discovering the identity of the alleged acquaintance who insulted her..."

...only to find out that he is a 15 year old boy...
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It wasn't.
EZ
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Swordsman
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wonder if she won because the attack was on her looks and age, both of which are very important to her actual career?

A 15 yo boy wouldn't even know who she was. No, it's going to be a jealous friend, I bethca. Chicks are like that.

EDIT: Oh, wait, maybe it was EZ... he seems to have the inside scoop!

~SM

(Message edited by Swordsman on August 19, 2009)
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Limitedx1
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

somebody needs to make a motivational poster "anonymous"--- until the lawyer knocks on your door!
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Slaughter
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Who truly thinks they are hiding on the net? (and why?)

How many folks are using their real names as posters?

Put up or shut up if you won't stand up.

Anonymity is (like politics) the last refuge for scoundrels.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

People who speculate like Scott describes are nothing but miserable gossip hounds.

Throwing out an insult is not the issue. As Scott says, it is the false information coupled with an intent to defame or do harm that will get you in trouble.
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Hexangler
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They found out it was Karl Rove!
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If one client saw that blog & she lost work due to a dumb client & even dumber blogger, then yeah, she's got a right to know who's spreading the crap about.

If you have any sort of influence over someone, no matter how small, you have to accept responsibility for your actions.

It's very simple.

In answer to your question Spike, it's the blogger.

Got something to say? be man enough to openly state your opinion & put your name to it, is my view.

If the blogger had put his/her name on it & a disclaimer at the beginning, stating that all views expressed were his own opinions, she wouldn't have a leg to stand on;

(Message edited by mr_grumpy on August 19, 2009)
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Super models have feelings too. get the guy under the covers to cry for her like he did for Britney.

46 yo, hot model.... skank vs milf.... its all advertizing sceme.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Did someone say SKANK?
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They found the perp:

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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

MODERATORS!!!!
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Hexangler
Posted on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is that you fatty?
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