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Lemonchili_x1
Posted on Friday, May 29, 2009 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"S2 and X1 brought back" with a "t-storm motor bored-out to 1350cc" which I would buy "just for the hell of it."
+1 on that!!!!

"Sport Touring" is a style of RIDING, not a style of bike. Still, some bikes make that style of riding easier than others.
Yep, I'd agree with that too, well said.
I've "sport toured" on a GSXR750, and the X1, among other things. I never thought I'd be interested in something like an S3T or a Uly, let alone a Concours or... eeek, a serious tourer like a Goldwing... But as I get older the seat on a Uly or Uly XT looks very appealing, as do hard bags.

How about a Uly with an 1125R fairing...?

I'm loving this thread, it's showing the different ways people look at bikes/Buells/riding. Nice : )
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Rpm4x4
Posted on Friday, May 29, 2009 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How about a Uly with an 1125R fairing...?
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Friday, May 29, 2009 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If this didn't work as well is it already does, I'd switch to the 1125R fairing : )

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Danger_dave
Posted on Friday, May 29, 2009 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

To me a sport-touring bike is one that is comfortable all day and can cut a B grade lap as well.

Triumph Sprint, Ducati ST4.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Saturday, May 30, 2009 - 12:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dave, I'm with you. I prefer the more aggressive ST bikes - basically regular-ol' sport bikes but with a comfortable saddle and a hard bag setup.

When I decided I was in the market for a new bike, all I found myself interested in was the VFR and Sprint ST, though there were some serious drawbacks to both.

Instead, the CR came out, so I got one, slapped a Corbin seat on it and a custom Givi hard bag setup and it'll take me coast to coast so long as I have the time to do it.
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Timberwolf211
Posted on Saturday, May 30, 2009 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like the idea of a 1125 powered Uly and with the R fairing.. Oh thats love and drool all over the place.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 - 01:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I will beta test the dirt squirter all winter long. I have already ordered the light kit for the MX if they dont bring out the Dual.
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Crackhead
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2009 - 06:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what would like the 1125rt even better would be a set of factory adjustable handlebars. nice and low for carving and higher for touring.
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Lemonchili_x1
Posted on Monday, June 01, 2009 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"If this didn't work as well is it already does, I'd switch to the 1125R fairing "
Steve, I was thinking of your bike.
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Ulyranger
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm in the Cityx camp...........I'd like to see a DirtyBuell mid weight DS.
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Swordsman
Posted on Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm still flummoxed about the ongoing fascination with pre-XB Buells. What's SOOOO special about the tube frame that people keep clamoring for a new one?

~SM

(Message edited by Swordsman on June 04, 2009)
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Lemonchili_x1
Posted on Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Simple... they rock!
Have you ridden one?

Actually, if there was a new one, would it be all quiet and civilised and lose that tuber charm?
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think the major outstanding quality of a tuber over an XB is that you can SEE most of the engine. They just need to make the XB frames out of transparent aluminum* and we could have the best of both worlds.

*obscure Star Trek movie reference
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Swordsman: Must be a sick fascination with leaking gaskets, shorting batteries and broken engine mounts...

(Those are all problems I had with my 2000 M2 Cyclone that I NEVER had with my XB12Ss).
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

What's SOOOO special about the tube frame that people keep clamoring for a new one?




They are easy to turn into a chopper! : D
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Swordsman
Posted on Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, it's just everything I've read, the XB's do everything the tubers did but BETTER, and yet the crazy people won't let it go.

If it's strictly an aesthetic thing, well.... maaaaaybe. I personally prefer something that has both form AND function on it's side.

~SM
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Xb9er
Posted on Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I still love tubers because they are vicious. Tubers are so crazy they try to buck you off. Its like they have a mind of their own with raw power.
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like both tubers and xbs. That being said they are so different from each other yet both equally fun to ride and own.

I think if you like to tinker with your bike a tuber is better as they are easier to work on. if you want a bike that you can ride the piss out of and not do much work on the xb is better suited.
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Buffalobolt
Posted on Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...I think if you like to tinker with your bike a tuber is better as they are easier to work on. if you want a bike that you can ride the piss out of and not do much work on the xb is better suited.

+1
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Lemonchili_x1
Posted on Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Yeah, it's just everything I've read, the XB's do everything the tubers did but BETTER, and yet the crazy people won't let it go.
If it's strictly an aesthetic thing, well.... maaaaaybe. I personally prefer something that has both form AND function on it's side."


You callin' me crazy!?!?!?

Yep, XB's are a better bike... but I love my X1 because of the styling/aesthetics, AND because of some of it's faults, though I like to call them character : )

Ideally I'd like a tuber, an XB and an 1125 in the garage, but wouldn't we all : D
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Jasonk
Posted on Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Amen Lemon...Amen...
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Akbuell
Posted on Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm with Lemon on this one. Have both an X-1 and an XB, and they are two totally different machines. The tuber is raw, and works well, the XB rides like it is carved out of one chunk of stuff.

Back when I was still a policeman, the first cruisers I drove were 440ci Plymouths, and Fords with 460ci engines. Great cars, all raw power. The Ford would chirp the tires shifting from 2nd to 3rd, at 90MPH! Did all steering with the throttle. The last cruisers I drove were Fords, with mid-size OHC V-8s. Both got the job done, in different ways. The OHC ones were more efficient; the early ones were all intake noise and slide. No favorite......
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, June 06, 2009 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would do many unnamed things for the tuber prototype Blast .... of course it would end up shod with all my dirt goodies, but damn
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Mainstreamer
Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2009 - 08:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What's SOOO special about the tube frame that people keep clamoring for a new one?"

More appealing to my eye, but most importantly for me, they did not have the heat issue of the fuel in frame design. I live in the hot humid climate of SW Florida and sold the Uly because of that. Wish I had kept my '02 M2 Cyclone!
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Methed
Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2009 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

While in line to meet Erik, another BWer and I were talking about 'heat issues' when a well-dressed factory elf came up and got conversational. After getting him up to speed, the question was dropped: "When is there going to be a fix for the heat issues on the Uly." The response was not what we expected...

We were told that the new features and models are released after the dealer confab, generally in late-July. When we told him that we were just looking for a fix for the heat issue, he again responded that "the new models are released in late-July..." and that he couldn't say more than that.

I apologize for forgetting the other BadWebber's name--probably Dave since I ran into about ten guys with that name at HC--but to both of us it sounded like either some kind of accessory or more likely a new model.

I had a lot of time to think about it riding back through six hours straight of driving rain, sub-50 degree temps, and 40 mph gusts, and maybe it was hypothermia but my guess is that we're looking at an LC version of the Uly.

...Or maybe it was the hypothermia.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2009 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Methed- Interesting info. Of course, I'm sure they could do a lot to improve the heat issues without resorting to liquid cooling. Whatever it turns out to be, it'll be interesting to see.
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2009 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i'm going to chime in here and say that i think the XB line will stay, but with a different versions of the Helicon motor!
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Mattwhite
Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2009 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Actually, I would put money on an air-cooled version of the 1125R... basically, an XB with the new 1125 frame and brake system. The XB engine is pretty darn popular to just can. "
"i'm going to chime in here and say that i think the XB line will stay, but with a different versions of the Helicon motor!"

The frames are designed for the motors. The Thunderstorm motors wouldn't go in the new frame because it's designed around the counterbalanced motor - different structural requirements.
Same thing the other way. If they dump the Thunderstorm for a smaller displacement Helicon it would go in the same frame as the 1125's. They could shorten the swingarm for a lower horsepower Helicon so it would be more like the XBs.

I also think a sport-touring oriented 1125 would be a good idea. They made the Uly from an XB without having to start from scratch. They could make an 1125 with hard bags and more comfortable ergonomics without too much investment.
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Guell
Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2009 - 06:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The xb already has the ZTL2...

I would like to see a smaller helicon bike.
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Methed
Posted on Sunday, June 07, 2009 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I would like to see a smaller helicon bike."
+1!

I'd love to see both a 994cc twin to up the xb9 and a thumper and upgrade to the blast. That's just my take, not a prediction.
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