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Danger_dave
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 05:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

SCHWING.





Not as potent as a Buell, needs a bit of clutch work to wheelstand and doesn't flick around as well - but what does hey.

Handles very nicely nonetheless.

What I would seriously like is the engine mounting system. Huge rubber mounts.

At highway speed it is virtually vibration free. Still a healthy shake at the traffic lights.

The nicer switchgear, self cancelling indicators and digital speedometer would be welcome too.

I like it far better in the flesh than the pictures. Didn't like the look much from the publicity shots. Gorchus bike.

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Lemonchili_x1
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 07:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

But those tacky, tacky pipes... or should I say covers over the pipes... What were they thinking???

I agree, looks *much* better in the flesh.

Would you say it's a difficult bike to photograph well? And I've been meaning to ask you - Would you say the 1125R (and CR for that matter) are hard bikes to take good pics of?

cheers,
chili
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Danger_dave
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 07:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dunno - next up is the CR.
Got this'un till monday. Will advise.

Pipes kinda work for me actually.

I just got off the phone to Rusty. You know how you have a few mates that will be friends for life - no matter what. I have three of them. Brothers from another mother.

Rusty is one of them. He built this bike in 1995.

885 Sportster - 1200 kit - and grafted a GSXR front end onto it.

I rang Newcastle and said 'Rusty - I've got your bike in the shed!'
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Boliver
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm thinking if H/D would use those dangerously hot temperature looking exhaust along with those gigantically oversized gawdy air scoops from the 1125 they could have the most ugliest bike on the market.Oh yeah they need to chop the tail but leave the rear pegs on there for an added look of total crap.Those beach comber handle bars really look sweet also.
Thanks but no thanks H/D.
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Swordsman
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think you're probably gonna' be in the far minority, Boliver. Methinks that's a pretty sweet looking bike, and it seems to be very well received.

~SM
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B00stzx3
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Powder coat the pipes black, or whatever you do for high temp paint. Look a lot better, then again I'm biased against chrome and choppers/cruisers in general.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Black ceramic coat would look pretty cool.

Dave, how's the leaning clearance on that thing? Is it better than your standard run of the mill Sporty?

One of the things I DON'T miss about my old Sporty is grinding the !@#$% pipes.
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Edgydrifter
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think Boliver meant to write "great-looking air scoops from the 1125" because that's exactly what they are.
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Boliver
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

NO, I meant what I said.
The 1125 scoops look like shit.
Don't try to speak for me.
What is the deal with this xr1200?
Has anyone took note that there is nothing state of art about this bike.Nothing new.
Oh except they did a few engine components like the Buells.I can't wait until I get a chance to race one.We'll see who wasted their money then.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Both the 1125's and the XR1200's look great. In fact, the XR1200 is the only thing in the Harley lineup I would consider owning, but getting the 1125CR is higher up on the list.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

got one coming to the shop. I cant wait to demo it and put it through the local loop.
Also have a XL1200R coming in street tracker clothes... still 525 lbs so we will see how the run against each other.

Now the Snow just needs to go away.
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Swordsman
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Has anyone took note that there is nothing state of art about this bike. Nothing new. "

So, if it's not state of the art, it's not pretty? Wasn't the original grievance that is was an ugly machine?

The way I see it, the XR1200 is like unto the current generation of Mustangs. Technologically speaking, there's nothing much different from the previous generation. Styling is a new take on an old design. The XR is just that, in both respects.

Honestly, what did you expect to come from Harley? An MV Augusta-styled contraption?

~SM
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Spatten1
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, it's a Harley light cruiser that looks great and works really well, probably best in class function.

If you want state of the art buy Honda or Yamaha, you'll get amazing tech for cheap and will not be dissapointed.

As for the pipes, I love them. I also liked the exhaust on the original Kawi Z1000, so what do I know.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>Dave, how's the leaning clearance on that thing? Is it better than your standard run of the mill Sporty? <<

This is the first Sportster Press bike that has been available here so I don't have a comparison base - but I think it would be better - by looking at it.

Clearance is 'fair'. Got decent hero blobs on both pegs and they both made contact on day 1 - but I was trying to do so.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

'Nothing new' on a retro styled bike. What a concept!
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It looks like a sportster to me. The rest of them do nothing for me...this one is no different.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>It looks like a sportster to me.<<

Anything to do with the word Sportster written a foot long on the engine cases? :-)

We know what % of the H-D market us guys that think a Buell is attractive enough to buy is too huh. This thing has significantly broader appeal.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Great entry level to a Harley. Not everybody is buying a bike to scrape a knee. This thing is fun, stabil and isn't bad looking.

I rode one for 45 minutes last fall and loved the time I had on it.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 05:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It probably does, though not to the degree you imply.

You could stick the word "sportster" on a gold wing and I wouldn't think it looked like a sportster.

I'm not knocking it, I'm just saying I don't understand what all the hoopla is about.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There's really two hooplas

1) HD has made a "performance" bike of sorts. More all-around and cheaper than a V Rod.

2) Its a retro bike. Bringing back some old racing history.

Dave, looking at the pics you took and the ones of my VR Street Rod, the XR1200 and the VRSCR look to share the same forks. Not the clamps though. What do you think?
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Rex
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wonder how much different the motor is from a comparable Buell Powerplant?

I like the bike. I would probably change out the pipes and the tail section. I hear that some of the folks, like Storz may have some parts coming out for it this year.

I like it's standard riding position vrs. lean over. My legs and arms don't fold over as well anymore.

I hear that it pretty heavy though.....If I was to buy a harley, this would probably be the only one that really appeals to me. thanks, REX
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Danger_dave
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah - pushing it into the shed I noticed the weight. Not at all apparent when mobile.

Forks do like rather Street rodish - Without checking specs - they do 'look' smaller diameter though.
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not a bad looking bike. I think I like the looks of the Nightster better. As far as the pipes, well I neve like the looks of exhaust on bikes. One of my favorite things about the buell, no pipes hanging of the side.
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Brumbear
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The nightster is so low in the seat if you are a bit portly it is downright not fun
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Danger_dave
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The nightster seat is the same height as my kneecap, whereas the XR1200 is quite (actually, surprisingly) comfortable for a large man.
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like it.
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Lemonchili_x1
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There was an old english toolmaker I used to work with *many* years ago, he'd ridden and/or owned all sorts of motorcycles including Vincents and Velocettes, and done a little racing in the UK in the '60's. I loved his take on Harleys - (with cockney accent) "Why on earth would I want to spend 15,000 quid on a Harley when I'd have to spend another 10,000 to make it go and handle properly???" (A Softail was about $15,000AUS new at the time)

I bring this up because I kinda like Sporty's and Softails and Superglides, and maybe one day, when I grow up ; ), I'll buy one... But every time I look at one, there's a mental shopping list and I think of all the money I'd have to spend to make it the way I want it. I look at the XR1200 and while there's still things I'd change, the shopping list is shorter than any other H-D : ). I like it too.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah mate - I've worked with a few gits too. :-)

Harleys work well for me as a cruiser, right out of the box.

I used to customise my bikes, mainly the Triumphs, these days I buy the right one to start with and all I do is peel the stickers off.

My 06 Uly is still bog standard and I don't want or need to change anything.
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Lemonchili_x1
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

He was an interesting man with some interesting stories, and an amazing toolmaker and machinist.

I guess I'm still working up to the "cruiser" thing, I always thought it'd be something I'd buy when I get "old", hehehe : ). I want to take an XR1200 for a test ride though...

I still like playing with stuff too much, it surprises me how little I've modified the X1, I like it the way it is. Though I haven't ridden one yet, the new 1125CR seems like a bike I would hardly change at all except to make it a little louder : D
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Danger_dave
Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I couldn't live with a cruiser as my only bike. I itch where they don't scratch, but I'd love a Road King in the collection.

Since I learned to do my lame stunt show I'm also not as keen to draw attention to myself with a loud pipe either.

I like to go somewhere discrete and rark up without drawing the heat IYKWIM.
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