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     Spatten1 |
What I don't like about most mass produced American beers is that they typically use corn syrup or rice in place of much of the barley malt because it is cheaper. This is defined as an adjunct and causes "off-flavors". This is why Bud, Miller, Coors, etc. taste so bad if they are not chilled to the point that you can't recognize much of the flavor. Ever have a 50 degree Bud? Not a pleasant experience because your taste buds recognize more of the off-flavors at higher temps. 100% malt beers tend to be much better at different temps because they don't cut corners with the ingredients. Now, I know barley has gone up in price, but I believe that corn gone up more, relative to pre-ethanol craze prices. If so, would it finally be economical to make all malt beers? | ||
| Slaughter |
I'm convinced that most folks drink beers because of their use of particular females in their advertisements or they drink them because they just seem to enjoy excessive urination. For those "discriminating drinkers," Why pay a lot of money? | ||
| Hammeroid |
We have prohibition to thank for the cheapness of american beers. Cloudy german beers, um um goooood. | ||
| Xl1200r |
I'm convinced that most folks drink beers because of their use of particular females in their advertisements or they drink them because they just seem to enjoy excessive urination. I'm convinced that I drink any beer because I tend to start seeing those very females in the same bars I'm drinking in! Spatten - I agree that in whole, the "typical" American mass-produced beer id quite lacking in flavor. However, when it's hot as balls out, nothing seems to taste as good to me as an absolutely freezing Coor Light. There's a period of 6 weeks (while the track is open here in Saratoga, NY) that my groups of "peeps" frequents an outdoor venue packed to the gills with people - way and way humid, and a New Castle just doesn't do much. But I agree - if these "mass beers" get the slightest bit warm, they're no good. But I fend the same true for just about any beer. | ||
| Spatten1 |
they just seem to enjoy excessive urination I was at "Steps" beach in Dana Point one time and some dude was just sitting in a lawn chair, pulling beers out of the cooler next to him, and urinating in his shorts. His buddy said after about 10 beers he quit getting up to go pee in the ocean. He was also yelling crude things to every 14 year old girl that walked by in a bikini. I saw the same dude there a week of so later with his girlfriend, on his very best behavior. | ||
| Spatten1 |
However, when it's hot as balls out, nothing seems to taste as good to me as an absolutely freezing Coor Light. Oh, about 50 million Americans seem to agree with you. Not me, but I'm certainly out-numbered by you guys. | ||
| Darthane |
Fight the power, Spatten. Don't give in! ...for the record, there's Smithwick's, Dos Equis, Bass, and Guinness in my fridge at the moment.  | ||
| Igneroid |
they just seem to enjoy excessive urination Pissing is good. if these "mass beers" get the slightest bit warm, they're no good. But I fend the same true for just about any beer.  I know a guy who is(or claims to be) a beer connisour. A common personality type. He's always getting into flame wars on the internet and dissing folks in the bar who drink "mass beers". He thinks the whole world is stupid and he's smart. Beer is beer. Most drink it for the buzz and temperature relief. | ||
| Bcordb3 |
Most drink it for the buzz and temperature relief. I'll drink to that! Life is to short to drink cheap beer! BUT, if you are buying, I'm in. | ||
| Spatten1 |
I work with a lot of construction company owners and the typical motto is: "I like two kinds of beer, Budweiser and free" Personally, I really believe life is too short for poor tasting beer, wine, or cigars. I have had many diet Cokes because I didn't want what was in the keg for free. I'm not saying other people are wrong, there is certainly a good case to be made for quantity over quality for those that go that direction. You may be even better off if you can't tell the difference or think all-malt beers taste bad. Shit, guys that like ugly women will be happy the rest of their lives. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
BREW your own. It really doesnt cost that much more, besides you get to use the choice ingredients that you want. My fav is a light lager "Coronado" or the dark coffee mixed with Russian Imperial stout death before miller, bud, coors, pabst or their light cohorts | ||
| White |
Hey cityslicker I have been brewing my own for about 6 months now and its great. It comes out to about $0.30 a beer. The only big draw back I found out was that I drink a lot more and so do my friends  | ||
| Xl1200r |
Hey cityslicker I have been brewing my own for about 6 months now and its great. It comes out to about $0.30 a beer. The only big draw back I found out was that I drink a lot more and so do my friends I'm sorry - I've read this a few times and still can't pick out the "drawback" you mentioned... | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
Schlitz is back! The original recipe!! | ||
| Spatten1 |
BREW your own. It really doesnt cost that much more I used to brew quite a bit, but when micro-brews got so damn plentiful, GOOD, and reasonably priced, I lost my motivation. Still have all the gear and the wife wants me to get going again for her Newcastle copy (more malt) that I make. It is amazing how many good store bought beers are available now, nearly any style you want. It was much different 15 or 20 years ago than it is today. BTW, for all of you Coors, Bud, Miller guys: There are hundreds of styles of beers out there, and the big brands just make different variations of "American Light Lager", all with cheapened ingredients. Seriously, there are so many different beer styles to try it's amazing, and I'm sure you'd appreciate a few of them. Get busy. | ||
| Chainsaw |
What I don't like about most mass produced American beers is that they typically use corn syrup or rice in place of much of the barley malt because it is cheaper.... Coors used rice for years, up until the point Adolf Coors died. Rumor had it that he would not allow corn to be used as long as he was drawing a breath. Flavor issue. This is why Bud, Miller, Coors, etc. taste so bad if they are not chilled to the point that you can't recognize much of the flavor Heat and light are the two biggest flavor killers to beer. Coors has been cold filtered since 1953, and Indiana was the last state to get Coors beer, 'cause they were the last state to allowed alcohol to be sold/shipped cold. (I'm a former Coors employee, Filtration Specialist, and Hops storage) | ||
| Djkaplan |
If anyone ever makes it to Columbus, Georgia, stop by and quaff an ale with me at the Cannon Brew Pub. http://www.thecannonbrewpub.com/ Been hanging out there ever since I got waylaid in the flatlands. They have passable wheat beers and a reasonable stout. I drink the IPA, a great full bodied ale that goes great with everything, especially itself. | ||
| Lake_bueller |
micro-brews got so damn plentiful, GOOD, and reasonably priced That was true until recently. Most micros are only slightly better than homebrews. And the cost is definately not reasonable any longer. At $8.00 for a quality 6 pack, it makes brewing from home a viable option. My biggest problem is finding the time. I do most of my brewing in the winter. Then "stock up" for the summer. Unfortunately, I under estimated my summer demand this year. I'm out of homebrew  | ||
| Irideabuell |
I really enjoy Molson Ice having grown up in northern Vermont and drinking some sort of Molson product all my life. Does anyone know if they are also using the subpar fillers instead of the appropriate ingredients? I'll be horribly disappointed if they are. | ||
| Spatten1 |
Better off not asking that question. The Canadian beers are considered the same category of "American Light Lager" in the industry and at competitions. At $8.00 for a quality 6 pack, it makes brewing from home a viable option Do you know if malt extract has increased in price significantly? I've not looked in quite some time. Unfortunately, I under estimated my summer demand this year. I'm out of homebrew I am so sorry to hear that. Bad, bad feeling. | ||
| Mikef5000 |
Weißbier is the only beer for me. And it's much better in Germany.  | ||
| Tramp |
Becks and Dos Equis are where it's at, for beer easily found at most 7-11s in America. | ||
| M2statz |
I am a firm believer that there is no "bad" beer, some are just better than others. | ||
| Mr_gto |
Becks dark is a pretty damn good beer. | ||
| Tramp |
Becks Octoberfest (We used to buy it by the keg, at the M/C dive bar I worked at) is the nectar of the gods...or at least of the Valkyries. I'm an enormous fan of Zywiecz, too. GREAT stuff, found at any polish deli or a decent beer distributor- clean, full-bodied-but-light lager. I wish we could get real Czech Gamnbrinus, here. stuff was almost the death of my pancreas a few years back | ||
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| Hootowl |
Corn and rice add alcohol, as their sugars are 100% fermentable. Sugars derived from malted barley are only about 75% fermentable. Brewers add corn and rice to add alcohol without adding body, or sweetness. A very light, crisp American Lager wouldn't be true to style if they only used malt. Beers like MGD and some of the more expensive "cheap American beers" are actually very good for the style of beer they are. Try to make one yourself that tastes as good. I brew a lot, and I have only made one batch that came close. Every little thing you do wrong is magnified. A stout on the other hand is almost foolproof. There's so many other things going on in there, you really don't notice some of the esters and phenols that aren't suppose to be there, and a little diacetyl might be a good thing. The fact that Miller, Coors et al can manufacture the same beer over and over again in the quantity they do with the quality they maintain is remarkable. | ||
| Tramp |
 Thank you, Glitch | ||
| Kyri |
Guinness & Smithwicks get my vote. And I don't drink beer 'cause of the girls in the commercials =) | ||
| Road_thing |
Jeff (Hootowl, on the left) knows whereof he speaks regarding the Golden Nectar of the Gods. He has donated and serviced a number of memorable hangovers at el ranchito...  Anybody that'll bring 10 gallons of homebrew to a burger cookout is OK in my book! rt ...relax, Blake. I'm not gonna post that "other" pic... |
