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Swordsman
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

SCHOOL -- 1957 vs. 2007

Scenario: Jack goes quail hunting before school, pulls into school parking lot with shotgun in gun rack.
1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.
2007 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.

Scenario: Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after school.
1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.
2007 - Police called, SWAT team arrives, arrests Johnny and Mark. Charge them with assault, both expelled even though Johnny started it.

Scenario: Jeffrey won't be still in class, disrupts other students.
1957 - Jeffrey sent to office and given a good paddling by the Principal. Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.
2007 - Jeffrey given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. Tested for ADD. School gets extra money from state because Jeffrey has a disability.

Scenario: Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.
1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman.
2007 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy removed to foster care and joins a gang. State psychologist tells Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has affair with psychologist.

Scenario: Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.
1957 - Mark shares aspirin with Principal out on the smoking dock.
2007 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons.

Scenario: Pedro fails high school English.
1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college.
2007 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English banned from core curriculum. Pedro given diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.

Scenario: Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from 4th of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle, blows up a red ant bed.
1957 - Ants die.
2007 - BATF, Homeland Security, FBI called. Johnny charged with domestic terrorism, FBI investigates parents, siblings removed from home, computers confiscated, Johnny's Dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.

Scenario: Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary. Mary hugs him to comfort him.
1957 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.
2007 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sad, but true...
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Bill0351
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sad, but not true at all...
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No_rice
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sad, but not true at all...

huh? what rock have you been hiding under?

i wouldnt say completely true, but most of them were not tooo far off.
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Swordsman
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, slightly embellished, but not far from the mark. Check the news. Hell, forget the 50's... half these hold true for the 80's!

~SM
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Dalton_gang
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Our society has really gotten screwed up over the last 50 years. (actually the last 20 years)
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's only going to get worse. The other day, a kid was playing in the street about 4' from the curb. He had a toy popgun rifle. When I drove by, he looked me in the eye and stamped his foot on the asphalt and gave me a sneer that said "Don't even think about stopping on my turf". This kid was pre-school...........no more than 4 years old. Where in the hell did he get that kind of attitude so quickly in life?
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I graduated in '99 as the last class of the millennium, at least thats what my yearbook, senior t-shirt, and graduation banners said. I argued with the principle that there was no yr "0" and therefore we were actually the penultimate graduating class but I think he got mad at me for using a word he didn't understand.

Anyway, If I remember correctly in Elementary school my teachers all had paddles and could use them. By the time I reached about 5th grade we had to get permission slips from our parents to allow corporeal punishment and then it was the principal that could spank you. But if you brought a little pocket knife to school you only had it confiscated. No punishment, you just lost the knife. I guess there would have been trouble if anyone had used a knife on someone else but that never happened at my school. By the time I got to high school that of course was right out, no weapons-zero tolerance. After the Columbine shootings I was told that my army surplus trench coat was not allowed at school and teachers started watching all the goth kids. They put up fences around the student parking so that no one could go to their cars or leave during the day. And within 2yrs of my graduation students had to have see-thru backpacks, went through metal detectors every morning, and the school grounds entrance and exits were guarded.





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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My neighbor is a supervisor with the Maryland Department of Juvenile Services and from the stories he's relayed to me, I'd say it's not far off the mark.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the slippery slope of sliding down hill is when a "life" sentence in jail really only amounts to about 7 years.
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Dalton_gang
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A couple years back my daughter beat up the "neighborhood bully" at the bus stop in front of my house. After he cried all the way to the school`s Principal my daughter got 10 days of OSS and he got nothing for picking on her and starting the problem.

25 years ago when you got caught fighting your parents were called and they would punish or encourage accordingly. Usually the kids would keep it quiet and not cry about it.(especialy if you got beat up by a girl)
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Corporatemonkey
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 06:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Scenario: Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.
1957 - Mark shares aspirin with Principal out on the smoking dock.
2007 - Police called, Mark expelled from school for drug violations. Car searched for drugs and weapons.


I went though this. Except instead of asprin, it was a Thomas Kemper rootbeer in a brown "beer" bottle.

Some a$$hat maintenance person thought he saw me selling alcohol out of my vehicle. Actually I was sharing rootbeer.

By the time it made it up to school official the story had morphed that I was selling coke (not joking).

After being hauled in the put the screws to me, and the others there. Of of the more coercible classmates caved and said it was not drugs but ciggies. To this day I don't know why he did that.

The school had no evidence that I was a dealer, but they did have a very strict no smoking policy.

Being a private school they fined you $50 for smoking. I don't smoke, never have.
They held suspension over my head the last day before finals, unless I agreed to the extortion. After discussing the repercussions with my folks. We agree just to pay it and move on.

I did get a little justice when the administrators thought they had gotten me.
That day I just happened to have a fat bankroll on me. I whipped it out, and slowly peeled off a crisp $100. I asked for change.

After that they were convinced I was a dealer.
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Blackbelt
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Scenario: Johnny and Billy have a dissagreement, and get into a fight

1957 - The teachers seperate the boys and calm them down, shake hands and keep playing basket ball...

2007 - The boys are forced apart, both are suspended and forced into daily counsling sessions w/ doctor Goldbloom to reach their inner child to see where the aggression comes from and why it seems to root itself in voilence...
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Old_man
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In High School in the 60s, my classmates instigated one of the guys to fight me, by saying I had said something about him (I didn't).
Being the kind of person to never back down, we got into it.

He was a champion, light heavyweight, Golden Gloves boxer.
I never saw any of the punches he hit me with.

Since it wasn't a pure boxing bout I took hold of him and put a hurt on him.

This happened in the middle of a classroom between classes. A teacher heard the commotion and came in and broke it up.

We were both forced to clean the entire grounds and parking lots, together, after school.

We became the very best of friends.
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Doon
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

2006: A friend of mine (a math teacher) steps between 2 high school kids beating the crap out of each other in the hallyway of a public highschool, and pulls them apart. He is sued for assault or something stoopid along those lines...
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nobody picks on my lad at school, they all know that his dad is a British truck driver & the reputation precedes.
The fact that I pick him up from school in an old '68 Dodge pickup with straight-thru exhausts helps the image too, mind you if the weather's good I go on the Buell.
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