| Author | Message | ||
     Mikej |
Time for a tour maybe. | ||
| Dynarider |
Oh that reminds me Bomber, the Sporty is supposed to also have the molded in color body work. So it looks like it may not be all steel anymore. Fenders are supposedly still metal but I heard that the tanks had covers...possibly similar to the X1's. Well not the same shape obviously  Hmm now if the XB motor is indeed a fact & the bike has a monoshock, then I get a pepsi from Crusty & a Beer from you...Im getting thirsty already.  | ||
| Dynarider |
Also Bomber I think Buell is not being used so much as a testbed for product technology but rather as a testbed for durability. I think these ideas are being hatched by Harley. A lot of folks think Harley is stuck in the 50's & has no innovations. Well its their money & engineers that have brought about the development of the Blast & the XB lineup. | ||
| Mikej |
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/forum/pr.aspx?f=24&m=2322
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| Sportsman |
I'll open the can o'worms. In 96 I had a XL that I got to run pretty good. Then I scared the poo out of myself more than once, trying to corner with the frame flexing and the front end twisting. Thought it was me, thought I was just too old for playing and bought a bagger in 98. Bored myself for a year and was ready to give it up. In 99 by chance, I test rode a Buell and have lived happily ever after. You'd have to own a machine shop and know more than Higby about setup to get handeling like a Buell into a present Sportster. Sorry Dyna, not trying to dis ya, they certainly have their place, they just don't turn. | ||
| Jim_m |
"Others say it will have the Buell 984. This motor is smaller, 37 lbs lighter, and makes about twenty more horse than the current engine. This would be good. The resulting bike would be smooth, light at about 460lbs, and about as fast as a Ducati Monster 900, which would be fine for me. This would take the Sporty out of the standard bike/baby cruiser catagory and put it closer to the naked bike field. " Now that sounds nice, so long as they dump that peanut tank (metal or molded plastic). Esp. if it were dressed up like a flat tracker..XL9 v XB9, imagination runs wild ;^D | ||
| Mikej |
Just maybe it will be the flat tracker that the Blast riders have been asking for. Eh?  That "X" in the XB designators does cause one to wonder a bit though, doesn't it? XL, XB, things that make some go hmmmmmm. | ||
| Court |
P-r-o-c-e-s-s-e-s I'm so bad at my age that I know who my anonymous sources are, I just can't recall who *I* am! I am a schizophrenic....I am my own best friend! | ||
| Mikej |
As long as you're not your own worst enemy you'll be just fine.  | ||
| Jst |
Court, Is that schizophrenia or Alzheimer's? The best thing about Alzheimer's is making new friends all the time. Jt | ||
| Tripper |
I received the information that dyna was in a crapper mood from a source who wishes to remain monotonous, i mean anonymous. Subject source may or may not be a member of the sacborg happy buell owners club, and may or may not have a rectum to insert his head, but i have heard (from anonymous sources) that he uses chinchillas in a peculiar way and is enamored with owning 187 mph kawis that break. Can I be a RCG now?  | ||
| Dynarider |
Tripper, close but no cigar. member of the Borg? No. Owns a 187mph kaw? No. Does own a Buell however. On 2nd thought you are the way the hell off. But we have lots of room in the RCG tho. maybe Blake will let you in on the secret handshake. Just remember...no girlz allowed.  | ||
| Tripper |
no girlz? how do we make new members... | ||
| Ray_maines |
Hey, I'm into it. Or them, or something, whatever. I mean, you know, really! I just HATE that low down dirty rotten "Post as "Anonymous" " button. Quit! Blake, eliminate that freakin' Anony button. Do it now! Thank you. Ray | ||
| Aesquire |
My first ride on a Sportster, I hit an oil slick, got way outa shape, & pulled it out flat-tracker style. I was impressed. On the other hand, vibration made it a poor choice for distance riding, and the $ to performance ratio was poor. My M2 kicks a Sportster's butt in most category's. (chrome & accessory availability being all I can think of & I care less about chrome) Rubber mount the engine, & add power? You got something going there I think. | ||
| Matty |
Mike the "XB" stands for the "X Blade" chassis that we're using now.  | ||
| Dynarider |
X blade? Never heard that term before. I dont see the X either..maybe I have to be standing on my head? | ||
| Mikej |
Matty, Yeah, learned that on the tour. Was just trying to add speculative fuel to meandering rumors of evolutionary directions. I still say the Buell is what the Sportster should have become were it not for Tradition getting in the way. Nice knee puck sparks in your pic by the way. | ||
| Psychobueller |
Ahhh, see Dyna, you don't know everything!  If you look down at a XB chassis from above you will clearly see an x-brace making it extra stiff. Mike J, I agree that the Buells are what the Sportster should have evolved into. It's not a long step from a XLCR to the S1. | ||
| Noface |
Ditto on the comment by Mikej. But I shore am glad Erik had the cajones to break out and create these Buells. I REALLY like riding something "different". Thanks Erik! Jody S. | ||
| Sarodude |
I'd simply like to point out that the thread entitled "2004 Sporty pic" contains no such thing. The pic of the primary cover to me is like someone snapping a photo of a hydraulic lifter - or worse, some torx screw (screw being the operative word). SOMEONE POST A PIC ALREADY! (ahem) -Saro | ||
| Jst |
Saro, Did you read the first line of Dyna's post? "Well of the primary cover anyways." JT | ||
| Sarodude |
"Engine - Carburetion, Fuel Injection and Fuel Delivery" Well, of Hondas anyway. "Chicken Soup for the Grandmother's StepSon's Ex-Wife's Third College Roommate's Lesbian Lover" Well, for heterosexuals, anyway. -Saro | ||
| Dynarider |
Saro, it gives you an indication of what the sporty is going to have for a motor. Obviously the XB's dont have a chrome cover & they also dont have the strange bulge in the front. The present sporty primary is nothing like the one in the pic. Believe me if I had a complete pic of the sporty or if ANYONE did, it would be here. Harley is keeping a tight wrap on things right now. | ||
| Mikej |
They're loosing their grip a little though. Harley-Davidson will most likely have a premature accidental release of information at some point in the next week or three. Too many people won't wait until the end of August to get their 100th Anniversary ride. Just perhaps, like Buells, the new XL will somewhat kill or cool sales of current models. Could this be the holdoff of information? And how are sales of 100th Anniversary H-D models going anyways? I do see a whole lot of them around locally, but I also see a whole lot of them sitting unsold on a few showroom floors. Maybe I'll do a dealership lap around the region on Friday and have a looksee. Hey Dyna, What do you think the mysterious bulge is for on the primary cover? I'm wondering if it could possibly be a belt-drive primary or something, eh? | ||
| Dynarider |
I just saw an article on the sales somewhere & Harley is offering all kinds of incentives to unload the 03's asap. I think they know that unless the prices for the sporty is dropped drastically low, that the new & so much improved 04 version is going to put a halt to any future 03 sales. The bulge is definately not a belt drive. Could be some sort of counterbalancer. Course with rubber mounting you wouldnt really need one. Perhaps its for a bigger stator? More charging ability might mean a sporty Bagger is on the way. Then again it could be simply for looks, the present sporty has a bulge in the front & they want to keep some sort of continuity flowing. | ||
| Sarodude |
I've been wondering if it's for some sort of dipstick / fill port. Seems like an awful big lump of stuff for such a simple purpose, though... -Saro | ||
| Socal |
Matty - do you have a larger 3D image of the one above? Have any more of different parts? Looks like Solidworks to me. | ||
| Anonymous |
Right Dyna, "It's Harley-Davidson's engineers that brought us the XB and Blast..." There's a handful of Buell engineers in East Troy who would gladly stuff that quote somewhere where your head usually is. Quit dissing Buell or go somewhere else. | ||
| Crusty |
Lay off Dyna. He's got a damn good reason for badmouthing his bike. When he badmouths mine, I'll happily put him in his place. Besides, he's going to give me a can of Pepsi. edited by crusty on July 23, 2003 |
