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Buelliedan
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

2 year warranty is also included!! Good on Buell for that one.
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Spiderman
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Isoooooo want that 12 R
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What is InterActive exhaust?
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Smadd
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ditto!! The warranty definitely caught my eye! I noticed the 12R has more HP and Torque... wonder what all the technical changes are.
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Smadd
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Interactive Exhaust"? Dunno... touch it and burn your hand???
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Blublak
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



DAMN!! The new site.. I'm at work and can't see it!! Buell now requires a higher browser than I have at work.. and of course I can't download ANYTHING!!..

Thanks Dave (Glitch).. I appreciate the info here, or I could have lost my mind! Phew... You averted a potential tragedy in the work place..

Later,
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Misato
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

why does the r have 84tq and the s is only 70?
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Bluzm2
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The InterActive exhaust looks interesting.
Electronically controlled "gate" internal inside the muffler.
On the fly exhaust tuning. Neat if it works,,,
Also, did you notice the size of the exhaust outlet? That's a BIG hole!

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Bud
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

torqe diff. R & S
to much back flipping law suites

edited by bud on July 14, 2003
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Buelliedan
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The blacked out Bolt just looks mean!! I like it!!
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Piggos
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How could they POSSIBLY miss Laguna Seca by three days with these bikes!!!!
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Mikej
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wheelbase 52.0 in. (1320 mm) bummer, hoped for 55"

Fuel Capacity 3.7 gal. (14 L) bummer, hoped for 5gallons minimum

Overall: happy, should be fun, gotta go find a test ride someplace soon.

Still don't see what I saw, at least I don't think I do.

Gonna be a whole lot of ticked off dealers though. Anybody want a tuber? I think the tuber market just tanked.

And is the $1700 difference enough to keep the 9's rolling off the showroom floors?
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Buellzebub
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

not bad at all, anyone catch what the msrp was?

bout time they got an exhaust tuning valve
[nothing new, metric's had em for years, i think suzuki called their version e.x.u.p.]
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Psychobueller
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The put new gauges on the XBR. MUCH better! Looks like they've been listening!
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99buellx1
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The torque specs are the same on the spec sheet for both bikes.


Craig
Buell Cycle Center
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Dynarider
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

not bad at all, anyone catch what the msrp was?

$11,000
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Elvis
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

84 ft.lbs.!!!!! Damn!!! That's V-Max territory at 200 lbs less!! Fastest U.S. production bike ever made? I can't think of anything to compete.
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Rodman
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When are they going to make one that's fullsize!!We don't all want to ride a 250GP bike for christ sake!
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Dynarider
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Whats with the 1203cc? Its an XB motor but I thought we were told they couldnt go bigger?

Back to a 6800rpm limit but with the 103 crank hp its basically an updated tubeframer, nothing fundamentally wrong with that. Thats definately going to put a crimp in the 1050cc kit sales.

I personally think the sales of the 984 versions are going to tank.
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Hobanbrothers
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You just put your 1050 kit on your new 1200 for a 1250 kit, bore size the stayed the same. They made the 12R an old fashioned "Stroker"
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Seeeu911
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I waited, I trusted, I am dissapointed...I know what next new bike will be, and it aint a Buell.
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Jprovo
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dana,

The 1050kit will work on the 1200 as a 1250 kit.

James
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Sarodude
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

From where I'm sitting, all 12 models have the same torque as all other 12 models - and ditto for the 9 models.

Yowza. I mean, YOWZA. This has gotta do some good shite for Buell.

-Saro
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Jprovo
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh yeah,

New Blast intake, but no FI!!!

What happened Spidey? Your crystal ball broke?

James
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Blake
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, Ducati sells plenty of 800cc Supersports and Monsters. For the price difference I'm sure lots of riders will still opt for the XB9's. It's a great choice. Sad to see you back on the negative track.

XB12S Specifications (from Buell.com)

MANUFACTURER'S SUGGESTED RETAIL PRICING (U.S. ONLY)
$10,995 is U.S. price only

Prices listed exclude set-up, taxes, title and licensing, and are subject to change. Dealer prices may vary. Additional California fees required. See your dealer for details.

DIMENSIONS
Overall Length 76.2 in. (1935 mm)
Overall Width 29.7 in. (755 mm)
Seat Height 30.1 in. (765 mm)
Ground Clearance 4.35 in. (110 mm)
Rake 21 degrees
Trail 3.3 in. (83 mm)
Wheelbase 52.0 in. (1320 mm)
Front Tire Dunlop D207FY 120/70 ZR-17
Rear Tire Dunlop D207FU 180/55 ZR-17
Fuel Capacity 3.7 gal. (14 L)
Reserve Fuel Capacity (warning light at approx. 0.7 gal.) 0.7 gal. (2.6 L)
MPG - EPA Urban/Highway Test2 48/65 mpg (4.9/3.6 L/100 Km)
Dry Weight 395 lbs. (179 kg)
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating 850 lbs. (386 kg)
Load Capacity 390 lbs. (177 kg)

ENGINE
Engine 1203cc air/oil/fan-cooled, four-stroke, 45 degree V-Twin
Valve Train OHV, two valves per cylinder, self adjusting
Bore x Stroke 3.500 x 3.812 in. (88.90 x 96.82 mm)
Compression Ratio 10.0:1
Displacement 1203 cc (73.4 ci)
Fuel Delivery 49 mm downdraft DDFI II fuel injection
Intake Zero resistance Air Box, Ram Air Intake
Exhaust Large diameter headers w/ InterActive exhaust
Torque (North America Per SAE J607) 84 ft. lbs. @ 6000 rpm
Horsepower (North America Per SAE J607) 103 HP @ 6800 rpm
Lubrication Dry sump
Oil Capacity 2.5 qts. (2.4 L)
Oil Filtration Screw-on disposable element

DRIVETRAIN
Primary Drive Chain; 1.500:1 (57/38)
Final Drive3 Constant path; 14mm pitch aramid reinforced
Hibrex® belt w/ Flexten® Plus technology; 2.407:1 (65/27)
Clutch Wet, multi-plate, compensated
Transmission Five-speed, constant mesh
Transmission Ratios:
1st 2.688
2nd 1.850
3rd 1.433
4th 1.181
5th 1.000

CHASSIS
Frame Aluminum frame w/ Uniplanar® powertrain vibration isolation system - Fuel in Frame
Front Fork Showa® inverted fork w/ adjustable compression damping, rebound damping and spring preload
Rear Shock Showa coil-over monoshock w/ remote, underseat reservoir and adjustable compression damping, rebound damping and spring preload
Wheels:
Front 6-spoke, ZTL™, cast aluminum; 3.5X17"; Translucent Amber
Rear 6-spoke, cast aluminum; 5.5X17"; Translucent Amber
Brakes:
Front ZTL type brake, 6-piston, fixed caliper, 375 mm single-sided, inside out, stainless steel, floating rotor
Rear 240 mm stainless steel, single piston, floating caliper, fixed rotor
Suspension Travel:
Front 4.72 in. (120 mm)
Rear 5.00 in. (127 mm)

ELECTRIC
Battery 12 volt, 12 amp-hour, 200 cca
Sealed Lead Acid, maintenance-free
Charging 494 watts peak, 38-amp permanent magnet
3-phase alternator w/ solid state regulator
Starting 1.2 KW electric w/ Bendix-type engagement
Lights: (as per country regulation)
Headlight Twin quartz halogen (H7);
55-watt low beam, 55-watt high beam
Tail/stop lights 5/21 watts
Turn signals lights (manual canceling) 10 watts
License plate light 5 watts

INSTRUMENTS
Electronic speedometer, tachometer, odometer; dual resettable tripmeter; high beam, neutral, oil, low fuel (plus, odometer shows miles traveled on reserve), turn signal and engine diagnostic indicator lamps; clock
COLORS5
Midnight Black, Racing Red

WARRANTY
Warranty 24 months (unlimited mileage)

NOTES
1 Specifications for non-U.S. markets might differ. Buell reserves the right to discontinue models or change specifications at any time without incurring any obligations. Vehicle specifications may vary from country to country depending on local laws, and some models are not available in certain countries.

2 Based on tests conducted under lab conditions per U.S. E.P.A. test procedures. Mileage will vary depending on personal riding habits, weather conditions, trip length and vehicle condition.

3 Hibrex and Flexten are registered trademarks of the Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company.

4 SHOWA and DUNLOP are trademarks of their respective owners.

5 Availability may vary from dealer to dealer, and is subject to change without notice.


103 HP and a two year warranty... Home freaking run! Way to go Buell. I want a black XB12R, like bad.
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Dynarider
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake, not on the negative at all. I like the new bikes, I think the warranty will do a lot to help sales, the HP & Torque are up, etc etc. I just think if you are already shelling out $9000 or so for a bike another $1500-2000 for a much better version is the way to go.

BTW, wonder where anon is?:D
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Dynarider
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

1 other way to look at it is like this, what happened to tube frame sales when the XB's were announced? They tanked as well. I still see quite a few tubers sitting in dealerships.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rumor has it that on the dyno, the new XB12's will be significantly more impressive than their tube frame kin.

Someone mentioned a 6,800 rpm rev limit. I see peak HP is at 6,800. I don't see any definite confirmation of the rev limit. It could be 6,800; it could be higher.

Donn,
You don't like the XB12R in black with those gold wheels. Man, I've got some serious new bike lust going on.

Rodman,
You ever ride a Jap repliracer? The XB9R ergos are damn near indestinguishable from those of a GSXR1000 or others of its ilk. Ergonomically, I fit an XB9R like it was made for me. I'm 6'-3".

A new record for Buell... they now have five current models for sale concurrently (I don't count the low and "T" versions as separate models).
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Cubby
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, I'm glad I didn't wait for the "new bike" for '04. I'm happy with my 9R until they come out with something really different.
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Rebelgtp
Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i LOVE the new black Bolt that thing looks BADASS! gonna order the new Blast intake by the end of the week. back to the Buell site to drool a lil more
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