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Sportyeric
Posted on Monday, July 04, 2016 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can't get the bolts out of the sideplate. 3 came out and show no corrosion on the threads so I think they've just been torqued to hell. I've broken 3 allen sockets so far. I've hammered them with a drift. Tried electric impact driver. Tried a hammer-type driver. Then tried an air impact at 200psi. I laid the bike on its side and pooled penetrating oil in the back of the bolt hole for a week. Can't use heat due to the powder coated sideplate. I think the next step is to drill the heads of the bolts off to relieve pressure and hope there's enough of a nub left to get a pair of visegrips on it. Before I go that route, any suggestions?
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Johnod
Posted on Monday, July 04, 2016 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've heated the bolt with a pencil torch, to loosen up the lock tite.
Worked for me???
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Sportyeric
Posted on Monday, July 04, 2016 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No locktite on the ones I've gotten out. And no corrosion.
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Ebutch
Posted on Monday, July 04, 2016 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Same here Too and use a hammer impact tool with 5 lbs Hammer. Some just use a breaker bar and a piece of pipe as a helper
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Ebutch
Posted on Monday, July 04, 2016 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Heat as John said in book says they use lock-tite
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Sportyeric
Posted on Monday, July 04, 2016 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nevermind. Figured if I was gonna strip the hole with a drill, I might as well reef on it with a standard allen wrench and a foot-long snipe. Got 'em. Bent the short section of my allen wrench 45 degrees.
And when I re-install, I'll have anti-seize under the shoulder of the bolt.
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Johnod
Posted on Monday, July 04, 2016 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I'll have anti-seize under the shoulder of the bolt"

Yep that's what you want.

Glad you got it out.
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Ebutch
Posted on Monday, July 04, 2016 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Go by the Book and No anti-seize !!!!

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Easy_rider
Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glad you got them out, Eric! I've been there with a bike that was left outdoors. Spent a few afternoons drilling the damn things!
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I use anti seize on the back of the heads too. No reason not to.
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Johnod
Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I antiseize the whole thing.
Probably over kill.
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Jolly
Posted on Thursday, July 07, 2016 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

After fighting this a few times I use antisieze on the back of the beveled head as well... VERY carefully applied with a q-tip so I don't get any on the bolt!
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, July 08, 2016 - 04:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bolts are threaded into nylon locknuts. I doubt getting anti seize, or even grease, on the threads would make much difference. I have never seen one of those back off.
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1313
Posted on Friday, July 08, 2016 - 06:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bolts are threaded into nylon locknuts.

On an X1, yes.

On an S2, no. On an S2, the bolts just thread into threaded bungs on the frame.

S2's didn't need nuts - their riders already had them... (Oh, come on, laugh. It's funny...)
1313
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Jolly
Posted on Friday, July 08, 2016 - 08:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Johnod
Posted on Friday, July 08, 2016 - 08:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Or are them.
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S1owner
Posted on Friday, July 08, 2016 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

NOT NICE!!!!!

But funny very funny!!!!!!
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Kmbuell
Posted on Friday, July 08, 2016 - 09:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey, I resemble that remark! Mine are loose too! Does that make it [me] worse?
Kevin
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Ebutch
Posted on Friday, July 08, 2016 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes all that Torque they do have Balls
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, July 08, 2016 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have both and got confused. My apologies.
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Yogis2
Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2016 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

found brand new bolts at ace of all places
quicker to just drill out and replace
repair went much faster and with less broken tools
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Yogis2
Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2016 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


mine
mine in back
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