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Red93stang
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2016 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm in for one as well. Not sure on the fitment, but I would like one for a S1. I'm guessing one size fits all?

Jolly get on the mount block/swingarm braces.
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Phelan
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2016 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wanted to clarify my comment about fitting S2s. The only issue with S2s is the steel front bracket that connects from the brace to the front tie rod mount. It needs to have a different bend and holes to line up, compared to all other 96-98 tubers. The aluminum brace itself is identical.
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Charlies_s1
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2016 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I want one also! Can't figure out how to add me, lol

(Message edited by Charlies_S1 on January 08, 2016)

(Message edited by Charlies_S1 on January 08, 2016)
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Damnut
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2016 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So let's try this out. If your name isn't on this list, copy/paste it and add your name with quantity at the bottom. This way we can keep a running count as we work out the details.

Jefc73 - 3 (couple extra for stragglers)
Damnut - 2
Blackm2 - 1
BrentX1 - 1
Oopezoo - 1
Johnod - 1
NewmanS3 - 1
Roderick - 1
Ebutch -1
Red93stang -1

TOTAL======13

(Message edited by Damnut on January 08, 2016)
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Brentx1
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2016 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If the price is right, bump me to 2 of them.
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Johnod
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2016 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So are we sure this will fit an S2 or are we sure it won't?
Jeff can you weigh in on this, it's your piece?
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Ebutch
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2016 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ps I WANT BRACE but don't need small hardware connector (steel Front Bracket) Because it won't fit S2 Frame. Butch
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Jefc73
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2016 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My two S2's pictured above have the Banke brace on them. They both fit no problem. I have one of the braces my machinist made and when I get the chance I will mount it up and take a pic.
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Phelan
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2016 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The brace isn't the issue. The aluminum brace is identical between all models. The steel L bracket in front is the piece that is different on the S2. Take the L bracket off the S2 and compare it to the S1 L bracket and you'll see the difference. I had one of the braces you had made before and tried to install it. The L bracket did not line up. It is different.
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2016 - 07:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jefc73 - 3 (couple extra for stragglers)
Damnut - 2
Blackm2 - 1
BrentX1 - 1
Oopezoo - 1
Johnod - 1
NewmanS3 - 1
Roderick - 1
Ebutch -1
Red93stang -1
Charlies s1 -1
Brother in buells -1

Total is now 15
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Kmbuell
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2016 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Add me in for one. Going to drop an '00 M2 drive line into a '97 S1 frame. Should be fun
Kevin
Kmbuell
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Gmangbl
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2016 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

count me in for 1
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Gmangbl
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2016 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jefc73 - 3 (couple extra for stragglers)
Damnut - 2
Blackm2 - 1
BrentX1 - 1
Oopezoo - 1
Johnod - 1
NewmanS3 - 1
Roderick - 1
Ebutch -1
Red93stang -1
Charlies s1 -1
Brother in buells -1
Gmangbl - 1
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Dave
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2016 - 09:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Slight tangent: how are these compared to the Stenzil braces I've seen mentioned here and on other threads & previously batch made?

DAve
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Gobadgers
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2016 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dave, this thread may help you.
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/47623/396773.html?1224722734

I already have Jeff's brace mounted on an S1, but I have read enough on the Stenzel brace that I'm thinking it is something to seriously consider, maybe more important than the frame brace. Not to mention that I read somewhere that many of the Buell owners in Europe use the Stenzel brace. I see common folks on this thread and the 2008 thread above...Phelan and Ebutch.

Questions:
1. How does this frame brace and the Stenzel brace work together? By that I mean, if I have tightened up the frame with the frame brace would I be transferring a load elsewhere? Does the Stenzel brace work in tandem with the frame brace?

2. It has been 8 years since the above link discussion. If anyone has both braces attached, what has been your experience? Has the Stenzel brace stopped the blown front Isolators these folks were experiencing?




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Red93stang
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2016 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The frame brace is for frame rigidity and the stenzels brace ties the upper motor mount and mid tie link together. Serve two different purposes. The stenzels are designed to help load on the front mount area and to try and eliminate torsional load by tying the front mount and upper rear tie link together. Their for eliminating the rocking forward and backward of the motor. Re-distribution of the stress risers out of the front mount area and in theory saving the breakage of mount components.
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Hootowl
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2016 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For those of you fitting this to an S2, you're wasting your time and money. Unless you just like the way it looks.
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Red93stang
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2016 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


Stenzel


I have one on my S1 and X1.
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Purpony
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2016 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have Red93Stangs Stenzel bar on my bike. Works well and happy with it!
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Gobadgers
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2016 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you Jeff for explanation.

Noting Purpony's post, Jeff, do you sell these? If not, can you direct me to get one? Thank you.
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Red93stang
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2016 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pm sent, to try and keep this thread on course for the frame brace.

Jefc73 - 3 (couple extra for stragglers)
Damnut - 2
Blackm2 - 1
BrentX1 - 1
Oopezoo - 1
Johnod - 1
NewmanS3 - 1
Roderick - 1
Ebutch -1
Red93stang -1
Charlies s1 -1
Brother in buells -1
Gmangbl - 1
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Kmbuell
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2016 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You missed my post earlier today ask g to be added to the list for a frame brace. Just one please!
Thanks,
Kevin Meath
kmbuell
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Ebutch
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2016 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm sold on Looks.That can cause problems in Women !!!!
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Gmangbl
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2016 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry, I am an idiot. I was thinking billet front isolator mount when i saw this frame brace topic. Not in for a frame brace. Please count me out.

Sorry for confusion.

back to

Jefc73 - 3 (couple extra for stragglers)
Damnut - 2
Blackm2 - 1
BrentX1 - 1
Oopezoo - 1
Johnod - 1
NewmanS3 - 1
Roderick - 1
Ebutch -1
Red93stang -1
Charlies s1 -1
Brother in buells -1
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Dave
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2016 - 07:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the links Thomas and the explanation Jeff. Jeff: Any thought of firing up the machine for the stenzels?

DAve
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2016 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jefc73 - 3 (couple extra for stragglers)
Damnut - 2
Blackm2 - 1
BrentX1 - 1
Oopezoo - 1
Johnod - 1
NewmanS3 - 1
Roderick - 1
Ebutch -1
Red93stang -1
Charlies s1 -1
Brother in buells -1
Kmbuell -1

Total is now 16}
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Red93stang
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2016 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I already fired it back up. I have these for the updated mount ready to go.


Stenzel for updated mount
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Dave
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2016 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jeff: intending not to muddy the frame brace thread... but how much for the stenzel brace?

DAve
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Red93stang
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2016 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We get 90 a copy.
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Johnod
Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2016 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Red93stang PM sent.
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