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S1owner
Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2015 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I actually have my 61 tuber pulley at the shop having it welded and redrilled etc mine has the XB wheel and swingarm but need to use the tuber pulley.
I was just curious on the pattern as I have both also
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2015 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A okay ,but this is what i measured!,

Tuber pulley bolt hole spacing = 48.84mm
xb pulley bolt hole spacing =47.77mm (these bolt holes are a bit conical)

The thing i did not check is if the pulley hearts are at the same depth?

If you want to use the xb pulley on your tuber ,you could try a uly belt
maybe that gives it just enough length!?
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S1owner
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2015 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Belt is easy many guys do the xb wheel conversion so find out what belt they use!
The depth is my next adventure to make sure belt alignment is correct. Joesbuell had to make small shim so I am anticipating a diffrence.
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Al_lighton
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2015 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There are plenty of pulleys out there that have the right bolt pattern and the right number of teeth, but beware that there are also different offsets (i.e. mounting surface to belt centerline). I got one once that was really nice, machined the hole bigger, only to find that the offset was wrong.

Al
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Al_lighton
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2015 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also, there were billet Joker pulleys available for Buells once upon a time. They looked great. But the tooth hardening sucked, and the belt would sharpen the teeth until they cut into the belt. They didn't last 10k miles before they were worthless and you had a broken belt.

Al
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Dutch_x1
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2015 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Al

I've heard about the bad tooth hardening from rizoma pulleys. They looked great,but useless.
I know a couple of buell owners who did own such a pulley and got a refund.

I own 2 original billet buell pulleys and both are in good condition.never heard something bad about them.

I'll post some pictures from the rizoma pulley and my two billet pulleys later

(Message edited by Dutch x1 on January 08, 2015)
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Jayvee
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2015 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"original billet buell pulleys"

Does that mean factory? Like the Shark-Tooth one that matched the PM wheels? Or if not, who is the maker?
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Dutch_x1
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2015 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes like the shark -tooth one.

I own a shark tooth pulley and the other has the same design as the pm wheels

Should still have the original box with buell part number from one .

Roy
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Al_lighton
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2015 - 06:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Shark tooth one was certainly Buell.I have one, and it's teeth have held up well.

I'm not aware that Buell made a pulley that looks like the PM wheels, but ONE of the Joker pulleys did look just like the slotted PM wheels. If you have one of those and can't confirm it's origin, I would suspect that it is a Joker pulley. If yes, I wouldn't recommend using it unless you get the teeth hardened.
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S1owner
Posted on Thursday, January 08, 2015 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you have a pulley with bad teeth this is the repair!
Dutch you have my pully pictured right? Dont know that maker
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S1owner
Posted on Friday, January 09, 2015 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Al by chance could you provide the back spacing, center diameter and bolt pattern for an XB rim.
And the same for a tuber?
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Dutch_x1
Posted on Friday, January 09, 2015 - 05:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

al

you are right about the "pm style" pulley.i think it is the joker pulley you mentioned.compared them today. never knew it was different from the shark tooth pulley,but when i checked them today i noticed the difference. you should see the difference between the teeth,they have really sharp edges compared to the oem buell shark tooth pulley and i`m sure it will cut the belt in time .

i am rebuilding the buell which had this pulley and i am going to check if i can adjust this pulley so it woun`t cut the belt.



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Dutch_x1
Posted on Friday, January 09, 2015 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

one of my tubers has a xb wheel with a tuber pulley. didn`t modify the pulley myself (fellow bueller did ). i asked him why he didn`t use a xb pulley on the s1 this wheel came from. he told me he didn`t like how the s1 rides with a xb pulley. might be a personal thing.
he also told me the belt didn`t always stay at its place.
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Purpony
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2015 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

like this?





I made this fixture today and just cut this tonight-

(Message edited by purpony on January 28, 2015)
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2015 - 09:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I want one!
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Blks1l
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2015 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice!
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Jolly
Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2015 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

NIce!

ok....how much to cut a pulley?
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Jayvee
Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2015 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is pretty handy!

The back side has some casting sprue stuff that can be cut out, did you do anything to the back?

Also, how about this ring cut into the outer circumference?



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Purpony
Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2015 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, i didnt removing anything off the back but thats not a huge deal. It just depends how much of the OEM finish you want to disturb. Im going to strip this one, powdercoat it, then re-machine the pockets and chamfer to remove the powder, machine a ring, and then clear it to seal it all up. Then make it into a clock-

A ring or dimpling is also no big deal.

$80 plus return shipping to do the basic cut as shown
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S1owner
Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2015 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Boy did you open up the can!!!!
Did you get the XB pulley?
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2015 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

nice work, here is how one looks polished instead : )



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Blks1l
Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2015 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On the block you have the pulley mounted is the block sacrificial where the tooling operates?
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Johnod
Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2015 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Purpony, PM sent.
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Purpony
Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2015 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ken- have not seen the pulley yet, ill let you know when i do.

Scott- polished looks really nice!! but im not a polish or chrome guy though... lol. give me anodized or powdercoated

Blks1l - no, the block is the fixture, i only machine down to it.

Johnod- email sent
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Purpony
Posted on Monday, February 02, 2015 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

0.500" wide by 0.050" deep ring around the front-

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Firstbuell
Posted on Monday, February 02, 2015 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

^^THAT^^ is exactly what I want!

how much xtra for the groove?

also, would you have use for a separate, 2nd pulley as a core for expediting future exchanges?

I currently have 2 pulleys & will only need 1 at the end.....
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Firstbuell
Posted on Monday, February 02, 2015 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

dup.....

(Message edited by firstbuell on February 02, 2015)
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, February 02, 2015 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dat's sexy yo!
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Purpony
Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2015 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

2nd one cut with groove-





The groove is an extra $10.00

An xtra pulley would be cool. Send me a PM if you like
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2015 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wondering if I should powdercoat it first and then send it to you to get the cut and "groove on".
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