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Tpehak
Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2024 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How do you know it lies?
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Crusty
Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2024 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You endorse it.
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Tpehak
Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2024 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So you don't know.
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Marksm
Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2024 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Then convince the palestinians (hamas) that Israel has a right to exist and to leave them alone.

This wouldn't be happening.
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Tpehak
Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2024 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sure, but not on the Palestinian territory.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2024 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://instapundit.com/636772/

My Senator, Chuck You, sides with Hamas.

I've watched the PLA indoctrinating children to be suicide bombers and lie about everything, especially the Billions in aid money stolen from their Palestinian victims.

See also Paliwood. The Lie Industrial Complex.

Hamas, has even less credibility, after the slaughter of their power rivals after the most obviously free and fair election until that, you know, the big guy won. ( in both countries questioning the election is verboten )

I'm all for a cease fire after the end of Hamas & UNWRA. Until then, it sucks to be a human shield.
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Tpehak
Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2024 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Israel themselves confirmed the genocide multiple times so it is not lie no matter how bad you want it to be lie.

(Message edited by TPEHAK on March 14, 2024)
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2024 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You have used a lie to prove a lie. That is not a good look.

Please post a link to Israel admitting that it is committing genocide.
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Marksm
Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2024 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Sure, but not on the Palestinian territory."

So, by that reasoning. After Japan bombed Pearl Harbor we should not have responded?

You are delusional.
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Tpehak
Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2024 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They had to respond like Russia does, without genocide.
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Crusty
Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2024 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Right! Russia doesn't target a specific group; they'll kill everybody!
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Tpehak
Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2024 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Russia uses the most advanced and the most expensive weapon to eliminate the Ukrainian nazy and their weapon only. Israel goes cheap and cowardy and kills everybody with old weapons.
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Fireboltwillie
Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2024 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Russian engineering leaves something to be desired....
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Tpehak
Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2024 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's why probably Leopards, Abramses and Challengers suck in Ukraine and Russian tanks showed those are more capable there?

You make mistake thinking that the goal of engineering is about making fancy expensive stuff. The goal of engaging is making effective stuff.

(Message edited by TPEHAK on March 14, 2024)
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2024 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I recommend the "world of tanks" & British Tank Museum videos by "The Chieftain", an American Army Colonel , Armor, former Irish Army. He's coined a few nifty phrases, like "significant emotional event" ( having a tank shoot at you )

https://everpress.com/the-chieftain

At over 6' it can be amusing to see him try to fit older vehicles where the max height is 5'5" ... and his "Oh bugger, the tank is on fire" demonstrations of escape from the driver's seat can get a laugh. He's also famously obsessed with track tension tech. Which makes sense since a loose or broken track means high risk repair under fire and brutally hard labor.

He's got some interesting videos with a German historian discussing the Invasion of Ukraine and the "end of tanks" muttering among mil-bloggers.

Highly recommended.

His take on the Merkava is that it's not the best tank. But it's the best tank Israel could build at the time for Israel.

Israel has no plans to ever invade Europe, so they don't care about ancient European bridges. The Roman & Summarian local stuff? They have bridging gear. They don't need long range in a country you can cross in a jet in minutes, and many of the design choices are to protect the human top priority, including the back door so the tank can back up to a building or crater under fire and pick up a squad of infantry, or occupants of a house.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2024 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/03/h ow_carnage_and_atrocities_heal_muslim_hearts.html

Religion of peace, indeed.
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Fireboltwillie
Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2024 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yes, excellent tanks the Russians have... I especially like the cages built in the field because drones were blowing them up with grenades....
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Tpehak
Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2024 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, at least those tanks were not sunk in a puddle of mud likewise European and American tanks did long before even approaching the frontline. The stupid American and European politics even did not know that they have to build special paved ground for those sensitive machines first before sending them to fight against Russia.

The stupidity level of those people is so high they did not even learn the simple history lesson that all those European invaders died in those lands simply sinking in mud, drowning in frozen lakes and freezing to death.

(Message edited by TPEHAK on March 14, 2024)
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2024 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Politicians have no memory. They would have to have brains first.
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Crusty
Posted on Friday, March 15, 2024 - 03:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The same holds true for trolls.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, March 15, 2024 - 07:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Slat armor to protect against shaped charges, either RPG or drone, or tossed from window, is fairly effective and we used it too, retrofit, for urban fighting.

Mud sucks no matter the location of the factory making the vehicles. Lots of ruskie tanks bogged down in the mud last few years.

Frozen lakes? Alexander Nevsky! Germanic Horse cavalry story, loved the propaganda movie.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Nevsky_(film)

George R.R. Martin stole the frozen lake scene for Game of Thrones, but with zombies instead of Germans.

To be fair, the late David Drake might have used the actual event in a novel with hover tanks or post apocalyptic robo ponies, but he'd cite the original sources in foreword or afterword, and his footnotes often give the original Latin or Swedish etc. references.
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Tpehak
Posted on Friday, March 15, 2024 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is not about factory, it is about design. The Russian tanks are lighter and have special shaped tracks and also have flat bottom without features can drag on the mud. The bottom portion of the Russian tanks are also more hermetic so the water and mud penetrates slower inside the tank and it allows Russian tanks to float on the mud and water reducing the sinking rate even more.

(Message edited by TPEHAK on March 15, 2024)
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, March 15, 2024 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://pjmedia.com/rick-moran/2024/03/15/hamas-of fers-ceasefire-proposal-based-on-unrealistic-deman ds-n4927348

Qatar sure doesn't want a million Gazan refugees. No sane person on the planet wants them anywhere near them.

There is No 2 State Solution that anyone on either side will accept, no matter how many Jew Hating Lies you hear out of my so called Jewish Senior Senator. It's been rejected by the PLO, PLA, Hamas, and Everyone else.

It's quite the quandary. How do you sort out the hundreds of innocents from millions of utter evil scum? ( theoretically, with enough drugs and lobotomies, you could deprogram a few at a time, but that's even more morally repugnant than leaving them in power as they murder each other over the stolen loot. )

It's not like Moscow, a city full of poor subjects ruled by a brutal dictator. It's just Putin's minions and the Czarina himself that need burial to save Russia.
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, March 15, 2024 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

More than that. They are all programmed to worship the state. Killing the leaders will not matter. A new crop of ruthless dictators are waiting in the wings and the Russian people are too brainwashed and or fearful - with good reason - to throw off the yoke.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, March 15, 2024 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

True, but it's ( Russia ) oppressed subjects who fear being brutally murdered, mostly. A legit fear for a century.

Gaza has a few million utterly brainwashed thugs of all ages and both sexes. And hundreds of hostages who aren't guilty.

Just by the numbers, even with Putin threatening to murder entire civilizations, like the British Isles ( just months ago with nuclear tsunami ) It's a moral problem in that he hides behind millions of hostages. The tragedy of mass destruction may yet strike Russia, again, but few wish it.

Gaza, otoh, is full of bad actors, though the polls Hamas makes up are definitely lies.

At this point Egypt might start pumping methane into the tunnels if they can coordinate with Israel on the movement of refugees North to central Gaza. ( It would be a two-fer since they can generate Carbon capture credits that way )

Hamas will resist losing it's human shields and accelerate the murder of it's Gazan hostages & blame Israel, to prevent being uncovered.

I'd try to bet on that, but no one honest enough to pay off would take the bet.

A medium probability is the Saudi Royals may decide nuking Tehran is their only hope of survival. Another great tragedy of a city of hostages of the Mullahs & their thugocracy.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, March 15, 2024 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hoot, it's a legitimate question as to the possibility of freeing a people from a century of utter tyranny. No one alive in Russia remembers before the Soviets.

And yeah, they do have the mind set that they need a Strong Man to rule to save them. I point out too many here, too, suffer from than delusion. But it's an easier delusion than the effort to rule yourself.

And you can certainly argue that Marxist indoctrination ruins people's minds. It's a feature, not a bug.

However, the exploitation of Islam by the "Palestinian refugees" cult rulers is far more pervasive. Marx just copied Islamist evil doctrine. The real thing has over a thousand years of practice brainwashing and appealing to the worst impulses of men. Misogyny is far too mild.

Christian Heaven is rather vaguely defined in the Bible. Most people have an image of clouds and halos from cartoons. Feel free to offer references of specifics! I've forgotten any.

Islamic heaven is an adolescent male daydream. Sex drugs food and alcohol. Never get fat, never lose an erection, never get tired. No hangovers! Never get turned down for a BJ. Basically Clinton Heaven.

If it wasn't for lack of female human souls, it's pretty nifty. But the sex & service is with eternally pretty, virginal, slaves, and while that would have appealed when I was 13... I grew up.

You can feel free to argue against atheism.
You can feel free to argue against Christianity.
But... You may be murdered for arguing against Islam.

True, an Atheist or Christian may be so offended they beat you to death, but the leaders of those faiths will condemn the over reaction by their members.

And I find the most cogent argument against Islam came from a commie atheist! A very rare one, true, and I don't have to agree with his beliefs in any other way. ( though his work on North Korea and Afghanistan is deadly accurate )

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/u6cpNhMx_AE
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, March 15, 2024 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Note that the Hamas and PLA rulers are by every standard lousy muslims. They exploit the faith. ( arguably it's designed that way by a millennia of evil clerics )

You'll note that the top Hamas guys are living in luxury with plenty of Scotch and other forbidden treats. Their faith is a sham and tool.

It's undeniable that the worst evil monsters in history exploit other's beliefs. And religious dictatorship is the worst, since their Gods are On Their Side. No restraint in Holy War.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2024 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/03/und erstanding-israels-war.php

https://www.jns.org/israels-strategic-game-of-surv ival/

https://www.jns.org/schumer-provides-cover-for-bid ens-smears-of-israel/
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, March 17, 2024 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/03/und erstanding-israels-war-contd.php
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, March 17, 2024 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://9gag.com/gag/aMVe2MX

https://www.persecution.org/2020/08/06/pakistani-c ourt-orders-14-year-old-christian-girl-returned-ab ductor/

I'm not prejudiced. I don't pre judge based on anything.

I make judgements based on facts after the event.

I'm fine with turning some Pakistani Government people into dog food. No need to process them in any way.
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