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Sami
Posted on Saturday, October 02, 2021 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Should you? You listen to who you want to. Me; I listen to people who have made a career out of curing sick people. You know; the folks who spend years in school learning different aspects of their profession, then they spend a few more years as interns before they can start working on their own.

Of course; you can take the word of somebody who read about what to do or what to take on farcebook, but has no medical training whatsoever over the opinion of a Professional. This is America and despite the attempts to turn it into another China, you still have a free choice.

I'm not telling anybody what to do. I'm neither your mother; nor am I a senile resident puppet who lives in a white house in Washington, D.C. I have no problem telling you what I'm going to do. What you decide is your choice and you have to deal with the consequences; just as I have to deal with the consequences of my decisions."



Decisions have consequences, I agree. That is why I think that it should be possible to hold medical professionals liable for malpractice. As of now, professionals in the medical industry have immunity, meaning that in the unfortunate scenario that patients get sick or die as a result from their treatment, they cannot sue Pfizer for example for malpractice.

Also, medical professionals often don't have much of free choice. Usually, their advice and recommendations come directly from WHO, the UN, the CDC and the FDA. Medical professionals can choose to deviate from that, but that means risking getting fired from their jobs. There may be better treatments available for Covid than just mRNA injections, but recommending those treatments can get medical professionals working in the medical establishment in big trouble.

If Ivermectin and other "alternative treatments" do prove to be as effective if not more effective than the mRNA injection, then failing to provide for Ivermectin and similar drugs can be regarded as medical malpractice. After all, patients with Covid should not be withheld from safe and effective treatments.
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Crusty
Posted on Saturday, October 02, 2021 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In case you haven't been reading what I've written, I was given several doses of Intravenous Ivermectin, along with several other IV drugs, antibiotics, antivirals, Steroids, and many different colored pills in varied shapes, sizes and colors.

I think that most of the hype about Ivermectin is just that - media generated hype. While you're worrying about CNN's lies, the Hospitals are taking the necessary measures to heal people.

Or you can believe the Twat on tweeter who didn't even get a Bachelor's degree in basket weaving about what drug works. It's your body; you make the call.
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Sami
Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2021 - 02:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't read Twitter and yes I have been reading what you've been given. The point I was making is that not everyone who needs those medications gets those medications. You got what you needed, good for you. I'm glad you got better.

Sure, most of the hype about Ivermectin is media generated. But guess what, most of the hype about Covid is media generated, too. Is Covid this super deadly disease we have been told it is? No, that is a hype.

That being said, Covid patients should get safe and effective treatments even if those include "unconventional" things such as Ivermectin. It is not up to me to prescribe what those medications are, but neither is it up to the media to decide what those are.

Speaking of, where does the media get their info from? Exactly, from "professionals" such as WHO, FDA, CDC, etc. So when the media makes bad judgement calls, then perhaps we should be holding not only their feet, but also the feet of these professionals to the fire for flip flopping on Covid for the past year or two. Accountability should be a priority at this point, unless people want to live the rest of their lives in lockdown and with masks on.

Recall when thousands of medical professionals pushed for locking down everyone but at the same time allowed for BLM to Burn, Loot and Murder? Recall when professionals ridiculed "conspiracy theorists" for the China lab leak?

I remember those times very clearly. And for those who have forgotten, a quick search online brings them back to memory.

Are we supposed to forget these things as if they never happened? Or are we supposed to hold these professionals liable for their lies? How many people have died so far because of their lies and cover-ups? Hundreds? Thousands?

Depression, drugs use and suicide have gone up significantly, especially amongst the youth. That is the price of lockdowns. Has it been worth it? Basic rights have been culled indefinitely. Is that worth it?

Again, I'm glad for you that you got what you needed from your doctors. Do understand that many others didn't because of the hype and the lies from the media and the professional field (WHO, UN, health professionals, etc.).
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Sami
Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2021 - 06:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

'If you object, get another job': Sajid Javid issues stern warning to unjabbed care home workers as he refuses to halt requirement for them to be fully vaccinated
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10051935/Sajid-Javid-issues-stern-warning-unjabbed-care-home-workers.html

This isn't going to end well. It is now known that the mRNA injection loses effectiveness over time, requiring further booster shots. Dr. Faucist basically explains that things won't get back to normal until everyone gets three shots.


Crazy Fauci Moves the Goalposts Again — “Fully Vaccinated” Now Means 2 Shots Plus One Booster
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/crazy-fauci-moves-goalposts-fully-vaccinated-now-means-2-shots-plus-one-booster/

But don't worry, it's only going to be three shots tops, no more. They wouldn't ever lie to us, would they?



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Xbpete
Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2021 - 07:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Tpehak
Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2021 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In two weeks the curve will be flatten we will be back to normal.
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Tpehak
Posted on Monday, October 04, 2021 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Imagine the new variant of coronavirus makes people transparent so you can see what inside of them.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, October 04, 2021 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ugly bags of mostly water.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2021 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/10/the -lab-leak-exposed.php

This has actually been public knowledge for over a year.

Yes it's a man made disease, yes you paid for it. Yes, they lied to you about it.

They, in this case, being the CCP, Fauci, and the so called press. And the D Party...
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2021 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...but Trump is the xenophobe liar who was spreading "fake news" about it when he tried to close our borders, stop all flights, and called it (rightly so) the China Virus...

That was about the same time Cryptkeeper Pelosi, and Occasional Cortex, were encouraging everyone to "come to NYC for the Chinese New year, and hug an Oriental!".

Time for new conspiracy theories - all the old ones have come true!
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Cupcake_mike
Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2021 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You've seen the reports, no doubt, about the new "covid pill" being developed by multiple pharmaceutical companies.

I imagine the "secret" one crusty had to sign papers for was one of these, likely pfizers as their studies kicked off back in july.

I was reading an article earlier and this caught my eye:
"Merck said in June that the U.S. government agreed to pay about $1.2 billion for 1.7 million courses of molnupiravir, if it is proven to work and authorized by regulators. The company said it expected to file for U.S. emergency use authorization of molnupiravir in the second half of 2021 at the earliest. "

$700 per "course" of treatment.
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Sami
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2021 - 04:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just like treatments for AIDS, treatments for Covid are potential cash cows. Pfizer recently made record profits from Covid.

Safe and effective over-the-counter drugs are badmouthed by the media in favour of the newest and latest drugs.

Ivermectin costs a few dollars per treatment, so do many other OTC drugs. Not profitable for big pharma. Whereas subscription injections with indefinite booster shots are a dream come true to them. They have laid down the plan as you can read here:

Goldman Sachs asks in biotech research report: ‘Is curing patients a sustainable business model?’
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/11/goldman-asks-is-cu ring-patients-a-sustainable-business-model.html
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2021 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Norway has had an outbreak.

Of common sense.

Here's hoping THAT is contagious!

https://youtu.be/_ItkYhFiGBI

(spoiler alert: they have dropped ALL restrictions, and are returning to a 100% NORMAL LIFE. They are refusing to perpetuate the fear of something with a 99.8% recovery rate.)

(Message edited by ratbuell on October 08, 2021)
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2021 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/10/doe s-anybody-know-anything.php

On the one hand, a meal at Taco bell is certainly fatal! But the drive through is safe. ( where you can't see the teenager coughing into the bag ) That's what they made Law By Decree.

On the other hand, the lockdown mania sure seems like it killed far more from drugs, depression/suicide and domestic violence than it saved.

On the gripping hand, wearing a mask and keeping a bit of distance means very few people got colds, the flu, or clap the last 2 years.

So as the Brutal Dictators of Australian and American States send armed men to enforce their ever changing whims, and order everyone who hasn't had an experimental and apparently only half decent vaccine to lose their jobs, or even to just fracking Die, ( since they are banned from vital operations like liver transplants ) just remember that the common sense stuff that you should have learned in Scouts, back when there were boys and girls, is still darn good common sense.

And Dictators??? Still suck.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Saturday, October 09, 2021 - 07:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very interesting talk by a magazine staff writer and unelected bureaucrats:

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/10/what_ is_it_about_healthcare_workers_refusing_the_vaccin e_that_the_administration_fails_to_grasp.html
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Ducbsa
Posted on Saturday, October 09, 2021 - 08:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know, let's sell crappy art to elite people not wearing mandated masks:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10062207/ Hunter-Biden-makes-debut-art-exhibition-LAs-Milk-S tudios.html
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Tpehak
Posted on Sunday, October 10, 2021 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't wear mandated masks too.
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Ebutch
Posted on Sunday, October 10, 2021 - 07:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Going though Orchard Valley today Seen This ! I thought this was Stopped (Wuhon Red Death)!





(Message edited by ebutch on October 10, 2021)

(Message edited by ebutch on October 10, 2021)
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Ebutch
Posted on Sunday, October 10, 2021 - 07:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Ebutch
Posted on Sunday, October 10, 2021 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Oldog
Posted on Monday, October 11, 2021 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Come on Butch, As much as I dislike Bidet
this is a bit much


What model is the Aprilia ?
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, October 11, 2021 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/09/so_ho w_did_15000_haitian_illegals_suddenly_find_their_w ay_to_del_rio_texas.html

Olddog, while I grin at the videos of Free Citizens openly and peacefully speaking their minds and especially enjoying their Constitutional rights, the printed version of their chant has been considered impolite for decades.

And this site's fine and generous hostage (sic) requested a level of decorum unusual for a site that discusses politics. And may I add, even the most extreme views are very unusually discussed with a lot of courtesy, although seldom the responses could be called obsequious.

In other words, few here are shy. Though many may choose not to have their views challenged, and avoid, ( or quietly seethe at the opposite side ) inserting their voice into threads.

The few who express anger and stoop to ad hominem attacks get no sympathy for having no good arguments for their views.

Still, the chants are a contemporary phenomena, and while some find the obscenity ( as defined by 1950s standards ) upsetting, I'm encouraged to hear peaceful, if impolite, public sentiment not being suppressed by political Thugs. If that changes...

I'm not sure the "Let's go Brandon" thing will catch on, but it might be cool to see the simultaneous mocking of politicians and toady propagandists.

But for now, I prefer to avoid, but sometimes let a meme with a"swear word" get through my personal censor and post it myself. So I'll just not get excited about it either way. Mea culpa.
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Ebutch
Posted on Monday, October 11, 2021 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

2001 Futura RST. Roetax engine V It's a Rocket!

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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, October 11, 2021 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/10/are -the-vaccines-failing.php

I'm disappointed that the Experimental drug seems to not be as good as promised. I had not so secret hopes that a multi virus vaccine would be the end result. There's still hope for that in other research, using the protein structure in the virus shells, instead of the specialized spike protein.

The question of side effects has gone roughly as expected. I'll arbitrarily assume about 100,000 dead from side effects, and initial "claims not verified" seem to show more drastic bad results in the 12-17 age for females. ( again, not yet verified!!! ) I'm not giving a f^€¥ about PC sex BS, this is actually Science here. Girls and Boys are different. Period fracking dot.

The apparent low percentage of those vaccinated who are "ignore it, I'm safe" immune is Very Disappointing! There's obviously a lot to.learn about the mRNA tech and while I knew that going in, I'm still unhappy about it.

Bless us all.

( insert here rant on the CCP and my fears of Bioweapon 2021 )
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Tpehak
Posted on Monday, October 11, 2021 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The experimental drug actually makes opposite, it compromises your immune system so you have more chances to die from coronavirus.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, October 14, 2021 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

MUST READ.

https://off-guardian.org/2021/09/22/30-facts-you-n eed-to-know-your-covid-cribsheet/
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Ducbsa
Posted on Friday, October 15, 2021 - 05:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://victorhanson.com/the-dying-citizens-chroni cles-of-the-deep-state-remembering-the-cdc/
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Ducbsa
Posted on Friday, October 15, 2021 - 06:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2 021/10/14/chicago-police-union-to-defy-vaccine-man date-and-dare-the-city-to-enforce-it-n1523907
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Tpehak
Posted on Friday, October 15, 2021 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Ebutch
Posted on Saturday, October 16, 2021 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)





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